anyone have exerience with self bleeders like these:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch ... 115+400081

or these:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch ... 115+400041

i'm thinking of getting these for my disc brake conversion.

sb

1.Wrap teflon tape around threads of stock bleeder valve......
2. Use an aquarium air check valve (rubber flapper kind) inline on the hose when bleeding......

Cost under $2

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

In an effort to avoid drafting my wife to help me bleed my brakes,
a few years ago I bought a set of Russel self-bleeding screws for the front & rear of my '71 Plymouth w/ disk/drum. I still ended up doing the bleeding with a tube & glass jar & wife the way I did before.

Also, to get them in all the way the 1st time took a *lot* of force; I was afraid I'd snap them off before they bottomed. The 2nd time was much easier, so if you use them, run them all the way in once before you start bleeding.

For standard bleed screws, I recommend liquid telfon sealant over teflon tape on the threads, not to seal the bleed screw, but to make sure it will not rust in place and snap off the next time you try to remove it years later. I've also used antiseize grease on the threads with very good results.

I got mine in the HELP! section at local auto parts store - they are similar to the Russel type ones shown.

I have the Motormite (Help! section) speed bleeders, and they look very similar to the Russels. I liked them the first time I used them. Not only could I bleed the brakes by myself, it was quicker to. The second time I went to use them, the mechanism had frozen internally, so they were behaving just like standard bleaders. Those Earl's ones look much more promising to me.

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'82 Dodge D150
Erson 270 Cam, O/S valves, mild port work, ~9.5:1 compression

Currently fighting with an '85 VW Cabriolet

My other passion

...you guys should see the look she gives me when i tell her its time to bleed the brakes!

the problem is, i started with single pot MC she helped me bleed those. then went to 4 drum dual set up, now i am going to disc....she's tired of it, and i'd gladly spend the $20 rather than end up in a fight!

sb

Howdy Mopar_Nocar!

I didn't know these bleeders were around til I read about them in a Summit catalog. Paying the shipping pains me, so I trotted over to a local Car Quest staffed by Mopar racers...a mellow, knowledgeable store. I was doing the disc conversion and my spouse was balking after years of helping..I can't figure out what is so irritating about mashing a pedal up and down. I got the off the rack set, used some real good antiseize, and darn if they don't work great! I attached a short section of hose to the bleeders so as not to spray all over the place, and checked if the bleeders really worked by using a vacuum bleed tool too, behind them.

rock
'64d100

There are yet more novel ways of bleeding brakes that don't even require touching the pedal. There are units that attach to your air compressor on one end, then create a vacuum at the other (or the poor mans version, just a hand held vacuum pump). Attach the vacuum hose to an ordinary bleeder, and suck as much fluid as you want through the system until you see no more bubbles - remember to keep the cylinder full!

Other nifty one - it looks like a bug sprayer that has a lever to pump up and down to pressurize the cannister. This cannister is full of fresh brake fluid, which is then forced into the MS through house and an altered cap. Whichever screw you open, fluid comes out of. This has an affect of bleeding the MS at same time. Theres various attachments to place on MS side of the hose to cover the various types of caps.

does anyone currently use one of those vacuum bleeders (the poor man's version, we have not air compressor)? my dad has been saying he wants one, as all of his older boys have left the house and my youngest brother is too short to reach the pedal yet.
do they work pretty well? do they have the same effect on brake pedal stiffness?

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