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Author:  joe4soccer [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  tranny for the 64
hey i have push button tranny for my 64 valiant signet. i did the non stroker "stroker" with the 198 rods and 4 barrel carb with the clifford cam. i was just wonderin what do youall recomend for a tranny? i dont want to lose the push button though and there lies the problem? any recomendations or any ideas would be very useful. thanks.
Author:  slantvaliant [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:38 am ]
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What's wrong with the transmission you have?

I have a pushbutton 904 in my '64 Valiant, and it suits me fine.
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:27 am ]
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I also have a PB trans in my 66 Cuda. Does 13's in the 1/4 mile.
Author:  joe4soccer [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:55 pm ]
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well nothing is really wrong with it i was just wanting to upgrade the car. there is nothing wrong with what i have. like im gunna put on the universal efi setup from summit in the spring(got to save up). there is nothing wrong with the 4 barrel but i want to upgrade. but if im gunna lose the push button i dont want to do it.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:08 pm ]
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Hold yer horses, there, pardner!

Just spending money does not necessarily make your car "upgraded". Not sure which universal EFI setup you're looking at, but if it's the Holley Pro-Jection, it will cost you a large bundle and make you wish you had your carburetor back.
Author:  slantvaliant [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:33 pm ]
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I don't see anything about an EFI that would cost you the pushbuttons. You might have to figure out a kickdown linkage to work with the throttle body, but that shouldn't be too bad.
Author:  joe4soccer [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:34 pm ]
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well the efi wont cost me the pushbuttons but depending on the tranny anything newer could cost me the pushbutton controls. and i would consider the holley efi setup an upgrade and a pretty penny(1,450$). out of curiosity why dont you like the efi? Have you had an bad expierence with it? and still havent got an awnser except for be happy with the tranny you have. is there a better automatic trany out there?
Author:  slantvaliant [ Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:11 pm ]
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I'm sorry, I thought I recommended the 904. The 727 would be a distant second.
You already have a 904, and it fits. Little or no fabrication is required for the changes you've mentioned. Maybe a kickdown.
The 904 is relatively light and efficient, more so than the 727.
You can beef the slant six 904 up with some V8 904 guts, and maybe play with the internal gearing a bit. It's pretty good as it comes.
The 904 can take the power you're likely to make, and a lot more.
Shift kits and manual valve bodies are available if you want to go that way.
Torque converters can be made specifically for your application.
For the record, I like the idea of MPEFI. It's even in my long-range plan. It's not in the short-range plan because of cost and added complexity. Getting all the pieces will cost a bit and dialing it in will then become a time-intensive hobby for a while.
For now, I kind of like that simple engine bay without a rat's nest of wires, vacuum lines, and sensors. It aint sexy, but that poor little BBS works.
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:32 am ]
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and still havent got an awnser except for be happy with the tranny you have. is there a better automatic trany out there?
The PB 904 is fine for your application. You cannont "play" with the internal gear ratios in the 67 older 904's, but you can add the v-8 clutch packs, if you have a high output slant. A 727 behind a slant six "car" is a waste of power time and money. The 904 is plenty strong enough.
Author:  joe4soccer [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:20 am ]
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ok thanks to youall
Author:  LUCKY13 [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:42 pm ]
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ok thanks to youall
If for some reason you was to want to go to a diff tranny (none push button) there is a company that makes a change over that will let you use your push buttons shifter on none push button tranny's.

But your 904 push button will be fine.



Jess
Author:  Flyntgr [ Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  transmission choice
The 904 in my car is pushing a 250 horse street/race engine with dual dutra duals, roller rockers, head and valve job, 268/272 degree cam and 10" 3,500 stall converter. I had it rebuilt with 999/888 heavy duty internal parts and clutches. It should last forever. My car turns 15 second/high 90's 1/4 mile runs. Stick with the 904 if you can find a highperformance transmission shop who knows how to do this. By the way, my car is a '62 pushbutton slant 225 (now 229). good luck!
Author:  Ron Parker [ Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:21 pm ]
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Flyntgr is right find a transmission person that knows 904 and 727 transmissions and how to rebuild them priceless. Brian Ragan here in Dalton built my transmission and it is in a 12.50 1/4 mile Race car. Its been in four years and is just as strong today as when it was put in. He also builds Dale Rose and Norm Fosters transmissions. I asked him about a month ago about freshing it up and he said it works or doint work leave it alnoe until it dont. He is doing me a spare 904 this winter just like the one in my car for a backup. He said i doint know why and i told him some of races are two weeks apart and i doint want to be down. Thanks Ron Parker :D



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