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| Author: | 72polara [ Wed May 30, 2007 9:35 pm ] |
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So, I've procured one of the group buy bell housings from ebay. I'd been planning to do the A500 swap, but never had any luck finding the bellhousing adapter for that - so on to the T5 swap in the quest for overdrive. A 5 speed seems like it'd be more fun for the slant anyhow. I will be converting the car from auto to manual, so I will have a fair share of parts to track down. The parts I've accumulated so far are: -Group buy t5-to-/6 bellhousing -122 tooth flywheel from a truck (came w/ motor I built and BH is identical to the group buy BH, with the exception of the clutch fork pivot. I can't seem to find any stamped part numbers) -Borg & Beck 10" pressure plate and clutch (used, came w/ above flywheel) I'd like to not wantonly spend money, but I'm not at all limited to no-buck part-bin engineering, either (even though that approach can be fun) So, The rest of the plan is as follows: -brake/clutch pedal assembly from keisler (the cheapest i've come across a used stock assembly has been ~$110, I'd rather have a new piece) -Mustang 10" clutch disc to go between the /6 flywheel and pressure plate -Machined pilot bearing piece & mustang roller pilot bearing per Lou's specs -McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing and master cylinder assembly -Ford Racing Super Duty T-5 Transmission (the yards here seem to want around $700 for a well-abused transmission... may as well go whole hog. I like the Ford Motorsports gear ratios better, too. Unless I come across a stock transmission for a much better price) The only questions I have are: 1) For those who have done this or anything similar, how has the hyraulic release bearing worked out for you? I've heard some griping about it, but I dunno if it's well founded or not. 2) Is the 10" Borg&Beck and stock cast iron flywheel up to the task? The build is a '83 hydraulic slant six with a mild port job, .030 over, comp 252 cam. Figuring on 3.73 or 3.90 rear gears and I don't expect to do more than 4500-5000rpm with this engine. Car is a '73 Swinger, so it's a little heavy. I'm planning on putting a 1/4" steel plate in the floor next to my feet. This car won't be seriously drag raced (but it will see a little bit of track time and abusive street driving) and I really like having both feet & 10 toes. I'm also hoping I can keep the split bench seat. I'm halfway figuring that I'll need to bend my own shifter handle. The t-5 has the shifter on top, so I expect to do minimal mods to the transmission tunnel. Sorry to be long winded, but this topic seems to have generated a tremendous amount of information over the years. I think I have it pretty well figured out, but I'd like to hear opinions from those who have successfully done it. |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Thu May 31, 2007 6:15 am ] |
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Good to hear you got the BH and plan to use it. I can supply the crank/pilot adapter ring for $35 shipped as I have a couple of extras. The 10" clutch will work just fine for your buildup. Make sure all bolt holes to the fly are not mangled/cracked and locktite those bolts and you should be fine. You need a 87-93 Mustang GT clutch disc. I am trying to finally write up an article on this swap, so stay tuned... Lou |
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| Author: | SoCal_65DartGT [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:53 pm ] |
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If the shifter location is a problem for your bench seats and you do want to to with a new T-5z, www.moderndrivelines.com sells one converted to a S-10 tailshaft (front shift conversion) which moves the shifter up 8". I"m going with one of these for my T-5z swap to avoid the transmission crossmember. Price for a new T-5z (front shift conversion) = $1635 (shipped if I recall) The Pro5.0 shifter option is $199 and is highly recommended because it has positive stops for the shift gates which prevents stressing/bending the shift-forks - a noted weakness in T-5s |
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| Author: | 64'4$peed [ Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:59 pm ] |
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I'm in the middle of this swap myself. If you have any questions feel free to PM me. I also went witht the ford racing T5. I guess I'll have to change my handle to 64 5speed when I'm done |
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