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Author:  Jason C [ Thu Jul 05, 2001 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  3-on-a-tree

I have a 1970 Plymouth Duster with a 198 and it has a 3 speed manual on the column. Sometimes when I come out of 1st gear it jams and I am still stuck in 1st. I have to get out of the car and loosen it from the transmission side because once it is stuck that is the only way to release it. Both rods do have sway in them. Are the rods suppose to be slightly loose? I would like to get any help on this because if it keeps jamming like this the shifter goes to the floor where it belongs!...:) Thanks, Jason

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Author:  Dexter [ Sun Jul 08, 2001 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3-on-a-tree

Quote:
: I have a 1970 Plymouth Duster with a 198 and it
: has a 3 speed manual on the column.
: Sometimes when I come out of 1st gear it
: jams and I am still stuck in 1st. I have to
: get out of the car and loosen it from the
: transmission side because once it is stuck
: that is the only way to release it...

Thanks, Jason

Jason, I had a similar problem with my '71 198 (now 225)Valiant. Lots of effort was put into adjustment of the linkage by the previous owner. In fact, this problem led to the car being GIVEN to me by a coworker.
Whether caused by sagging engine and transmission mounts, haphazard adjustment or sloppy bushings in the linkage, this binding is a real problem. My car had three shift rods: the usual two, plus an interlock rod (safety device).
When I removed the interlock rod, my shifting problems went away. I am NOT advising you to do this if your car has such a device. However, my opinion is that if the car has one, it may be making your problems worse.


Gothamauto@aol.com

Author:  richard [ Tue Jul 17, 2001 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3-on-a-tree

I had the same thing with a 65 van. I found that if I really jammed it into first it would click back in.

The problem was with the linkage. years of people going directly diagonally from 1st to second and not going gently through the H pattern wore it out and I first became aware of it after a freind used it to move someone else and drove from SF to Oakland in first gear. Youch. I think I would check the gates and maybe remove that saftey thingy (but I didn't say that becasue of liablility)

Good luck. let us know how you fixed it because invariably you will and maybe we can dispense more advice...
Quote:
:
: Thanks, Jason
:
: Jason, I had a similar problem with my '71 198
: (now 225)Valiant. Lots of effort was put
: into adjustment of the linkage by the
: previous owner. In fact, this problem led to
: the car being GIVEN to me by a coworker.
: Whether caused by sagging engine and
: transmission mounts, haphazard adjustment or
: sloppy bushings in the linkage, this binding
: is a real problem. My car had three shift
: rods: the usual two, plus an interlock rod
: (safety device).
: When I removed the interlock rod, my shifting
: problems went away. I am NOT advising you to
: do this if your car has such a device.
: However, my opinion is that if the car has
: one, it may be making your problems worse.



richard-c@e-d-a.com

Author:  Alex [ Fri Aug 03, 2001 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 3-on-a-tree

Quote:
: I have a 1970 Plymouth Duster with a 198 and it
: has a 3 speed manual on the column.
: Sometimes when I come out of 1st gear it
: jams and I am still stuck in 1st. I have to
: get out of the car and loosen it from the
: transmission side because once it is stuck
: that is the only way to release it. Both
: rods do have sway in them. Are the rods
: suppose to be slightly loose? I would like
: to get any help on this because if it keeps
: jamming like this the shifter goes to the
: floor where it belongs!...:) Thanks, Jason


I know exactly what you mean. Once in a while my 65 valiant does the same thing and I have to manually yank the thing back into place from the linkage. Let me know if you are able to fix that. Will do same here.

Alex

Orionsax7@cs.com

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