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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:58 pm 
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what is the reason for the hatred of a fram filter, i have used nothing but fram oil/gas/air for years with no problems :?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:06 pm 
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Fram uses only the cheapest of materials and inferior construction to produce the lowest grade oil filter on the market.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:28 pm 
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what is the reason for the hatred of a fram filter, i have used nothing but fram oil/gas/air for years with no problems :?
screw AlliedSignal.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfil ... .html#fram

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what is the reason for the hatred of a fram filter, i have used nothing but fram oil/gas/air for years with no problems :?
That just means you've been lucky so far, just like the guy who's smoked cigarettes for three decades and doesn't yet have cancer or emphysema, or the guy who's refused to wear seatbelts for fifty years and hasn't yet had his face resculptured by a steering column or windshield. Fram filters are poorly made from low-quality materials. The link Steponmebbbboom provided is one of many good ones on the subject.

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A cheap filter cost me an engine....it was made by Mighty Inc. for the Valvoline Lube Center near our home. I make them install a WIX filter on all my engines. A Wix 1515 for the 440's and a 1806 for the Slant. They are glad to do it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:22 pm 
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Are you sure you dont have that backwards?I have been running the 1515 on my slant,also lost a rod bearing,will do a search and read posts,mark


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:38 pm 
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1806 = 1515 with built-in standpipe for instant oil pressure in applications (like the slant-6) with base-down filter installations.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:50 pm 
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So a 1806 wont fit with a stand pipe on the pump?or is redundant?just curious now,mark


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:10 pm 
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Use the board's search function. Try searching on 1806.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:16 am 
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i don`t think i am that lucky or i would have won the lotto by now, i am just at odds with the cheap materials they are made from and my use turning up no problems even racing but i have nothing to compare it to sense i have not used any others. the only story i have from around here is a purulator filter colapsing internally.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:49 am 
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i don`t think i am that lucky or i would have won the lotto by now
One doesn't follow from the other. I know a lot of people with rotten luck, who can't catch a break when it comes to housing, transportation, or work. But none of them has been struck by lightning!
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i am just at odds with the cheap materials they are made from
So are we at odds with the cheap materials they're made from. That's why we recommend not using them. But it sounds like you're trying to say you don't believe Fram filters are junk. Okay, that's certainly your choice to believe whatever you want, even when facts and evidence are placed right in front of you. But this kind of reminds me of Santa Claus: no matter how hard you believe in him, he doesn't exist. Likewise, no matter how hard you want to believe that Fram filters are cool and excellent…

…they're still trash.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:53 pm 
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Man, I gata stop using Fram. Friggin POS... I just got one to do an oil change, I guess I will take that back. What is the best filter to use? The Wix?

What about oil, I use Penzoil 10w-30, is that ok to use?

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Oil is a matter of preference. I can recommend Valvoline (or Napa oil, same thing) because thats what I've used for 20+ years. Others may like Castrol, my dad swore by Quakerstate because thats what his dad used, my father in law only uses Havoline. For oil filters, can't go wrong with either Wix (Napa and CarQuest filters are also Wix) or Purolator. Never a problem with either.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:30 am 
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Check out www.bobistheoilguy.com for more information than you'll ever need on oil and filters. He has pics that show you how crappy Fram filters are.

I prefer Wix (or Napa Gold) and full synthetic oil. I started using synthetic when I was 17 and never looked back.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:30 am 
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But this kind of reminds me of Santa Claus: no matter how hard you believe in him, he doesn't exist.
Hey now! You can call out bad parts but leave the jolly guy out of it!!! :lol:

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