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 Post subject: Cleaning Fuse box?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:56 pm 
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Can anyone give me some tips to clean the rust off the fuse box for a 65 valiant?
The clip for each fuse is rusted pretty bad
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:33 pm 
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It's going to be very difficult to clean off the rust and keep it off. You could remove the rust with Naval Jelly (or Coca-Cola; both are solutions of phosphoric acid) but it will come back quickly, for the anticorrosion plating has gone from your fuse clips. If you need to continue using this fusebox, then once you've removed the rust you'll want to make heavy use of Ox-Gard or Kopr-Shield or some other anticorrosion grease. The best/most permanent fix would be to fit a new fuse box.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:55 pm 
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Dan's advice is good on this, and is a cheep fix for something that will make life miserable for you if not done.

Here is what I did to fix the same problem you have with rusted fuse holders:

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I removed each wire one at a time crimped on new female spade connectors, and made up any splices using a small dot of solder, and covered the splice with heat shrink insolation so vibration won't cause any problems. Than installed the newly terminated wire onto the new block in the same sequence that the factory used. Than I mounted the inexpensive six circuit fuse block on the existing fuse block with a few 1/4" bolts, fender washers, and stop nuts.

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After a little bending of the existing bracket, this whole mess just popped back up into position using the old screw. The vent door still opens. Take care to keep any wires out of reach of the wiper drive arm.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:07 pm 
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great, thanks for the info!
any brand of box in particular?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:33 am 
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I don't remember the brand, where I got it, but it was cheep less than ten bucks.

It looks like this one, but I did not get it from this company as they require a minium order of two.

http://order.waytekwire.com/CGI-BIN/LAN ... 21+M37+ENG

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:58 pm 
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Great thanks

I noticed the fuse box has 3 prongs (female spades) stacked onto one fuse located on the first fuse (opposite side of radio)
I read this is normal from the factory for add on items

The question is, would i spread out each little spade to have its own fuse?
Im guessing the opposite side of the 3 prongs, would have to be spread to its own fuse as well?

Ill take a picture if this doesnt make sense
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:58 pm 
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They are stacked up...just curious how one would spread these over to other fuses since the opposite side of the fuse is just one wire???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:20 am 
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Either way is fine. When theyare stacked up like that, one fuse takes everything out. That is the only down side. The main thing is that the box will be divided into switched and unswitched circuits. Just make sure you block them correctly.

If it were me, I might want to replace it with a block that used the spade type fuses, as they are easier to R&R. It depends on how authentic you want your car to be. That is a very pretty car from what I have seen of it.

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HUM just a thought ( I dont have the answer as I cant see the whole setup) is this stack of conections on the line or load side of the fuse?
It will make a big difference on the protection and rating of the fuse(s).
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Just make up a little splice where three wires join to one, solder the splice with as little solder as possible and cover it with heat shrink. Than crimp on an insolated female spade connector on the single wire.

Keep in mind if you tie three # 18 wires together, the single wire needs to be heavier gage, say a # 14. These singles will only be a few inches long so excessive heat and resistance won't be a problem if they are sized too small.

If there are two wires to be joined, that can be done using a #14 gage connector, and crimping both wires at once to it. Look at the photo where two pinks, and two orange wires are spliced at the connector, the same ones you were asking about on your project.

I checked the wiring diagram of your car, and the fuse block is wired about the same as my 67.

The green wire on my block feeds the relay system I installed to operate the convertible top pump so as to lessen the load on the dash switch. It is not on the factory diagram.

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