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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:02 am 
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Car Model: 64 Plymouth Valiant
On my 64.

I have an idea, but need to know the dimensions of typical unleaded gas nozzles for trial and error work..........

All I've found is the tube diameter is 13/16"

Looking for the initial straight section length,
the angle of the curve
overall length (outside of curve)
where the spring or catch collar is in relationship to the end.


Then I can make a dummy gas nozzle (easy as I have a flex nozzle for a jerry can) to get things done.

thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:19 am 
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Are you having trouble filling the car with gas? Just de ciphering the heading!

If so I'm wondering whats the cause because you will need to expel the same amount of air as you are filling with gas..At the same speed.

I still dont have my AP6. 2.5weeks and counting but I would assume that filling older cars would be easier. At least in Aust. Because the filler necks are wider for Leaded gas wheres now all there are is the narrow Unleaded nozzles to fill...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:16 am 
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With the shallow slope of the filler neck on the older models and no restrictor in the neck, fuel tends to slosh out on you when you fill your tank................ (tends to be slosh, then the nozzle clicks off)


If you're the only one at the station and it's quiet, you can tell you're getting close because the tone/noise of the fuel rushing in changes pitch, but at normal stations, the background noise drowns that out.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:50 am 
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If you're the only one at the station and it's quiet, you can tell you're getting close because the tone/noise of the fuel rushing in changes pitch, but at normal stations, the background noise drowns that out.
Ahh. Gas stations far from anything and no wind...


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:41 pm 
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This is an olllllllld problem with '60-'66 A-bodies. Time was, you could find filler neck restrictors, the type with the spring-loaded flap door, meant for repair of filler necks with broken, missing, or tampered restrictors. Such a restrictor would greatly reduce the regurgitation problem, but I can't find the durn things any more!

There's no standardisation I've ever seen in the pump nozzle dimensions you're after. I've seen some fully curved, some straight and then angled, some straight and then curved...then there are the vapour-recovery varieties, which have a _way_ different nozzle contour...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:05 pm 
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My Belvedere fills behind license plate so it's EASY to get sloshed. :roll: Here in Orygun we aren't allowed to pump our own, so I always have to convince the nozzle jockey to stay with it so fuel doesn't "backwash" all over. If they leave to fuel other cars I have to babysit the nozzle myself. I've almost been banned by two stations. :twisted:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:13 am 
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Here in Orygun we aren't allowed to pump our own
here is Sydney I don't think you would find a pump anymore where someone did it for you! I know down in Tasmania some places still do.

But I kind of like pumping my own fuel. Paying for it is not nice though :shock:

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