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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:54 pm 
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Well its time me and the '76 904 to get better aquainted, ie crack her open and inspect. Now I will be taking pics, when I bought the engine and tranny I was told they were running when pulled, I was not told till I arrived 40miles south that they had both been sitting for about 6years !!!! but ran when pulled, with a original *not rolled :roll: 86K)..... Now the fluid is still bright red, doesn't smell burnt at all, but.... theres always the what if.

So after I drop the pan, and hopfully find nothing attached to the magnet, if it even has one, should I go full rebuild, or just a shift kit ? I know there opposite ends of the spectrum, but I am trying to this on a $300 or less budget. Should I up grade the kickdown lever to help with the upsifts *according to the MOPAR book*?

I would like firm shifts, still retain the automatic portion, but be better than stock. I have read several where people have used different kits with mixed results. I would like to know whos uses what in their trannys, their experiences, anything they would have done different, etc. Just trying to get input on quality stuff, and not waste my money on junk.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:58 pm 
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oh engines a 225 *not sure the year* '79 Volare 2dr(gutted except the bench and dash w/guages), 8 1/4" 2.26/2.76 ? not sure the rear gear came out of a '87 5th ave 318/904, also does any one have the length of the drive shaft for a F-body 225/904/8 1/4" ?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:29 pm 
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What's the goal?

You can do a shift kit and see if that gets you what you want. TransGo is the only thing I'll use.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:26 am 
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. Should I up grade the kickdown lever to help with the upsifts *according to the MOPAR book*?



-Mike
Absolutley NOT. When you call today, ask my opinion on the trans work.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:36 pm 
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That was a good talk today Charrlie. I think I will decide after I take her apart and see what the internals look like, ie shavings in the pan, grungie looking filter, etc.going to get a nice giant concrete mixing pan from either home cheapo or lowes to tear her apart in, it worked wonders for when I tore apart my BB TF727 :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:27 pm 
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I found the TransGo TF-2 shift kit, on summits site, but it says no instructions are included in the kit. I will have to call and verify, but how hard would it be to install with out instructions ?

-Mike

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:10 pm 
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I have a transgo kit installed in a '70 904 valvebody if you are interested. It is a manual shift forward pattern TF-3 I think. (still uses kick down) I think the kit alone was $100.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:24 pm 
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My TF-2 came with instructions and I bought it just a few months ago. It would be nearly impossible to install properly without instructions.
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I found the TransGo TF-2 shift kit, on summits site, but it says no instructions are included in the kit. I will have to call and verify, but how hard would it be to install with out instructions ?

-Mike

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:44 pm 
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Whats the difference between the Transgo TF-2 and TF-3 kits? Whats the difference between Transgo and B&M kits?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:28 pm 
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duster, price, quality, fine tuning. The B&M is cheaper but doesn't offer much in the way of options from the trans go site:

TF-2 Torqueflite
60-up 3 speed Instant full-race shifts; Puts the driver in command.
Goes back-to-low at any speed. Fixes 2-3 bindup

TF-1 Torqueflite
60-up 3 speed Smooth Crisper shifts, improves durability.
Puts the driver in Command.
Goes back-to-low at any speed.

TF-3 66-up 3 speed Stick Shift; Full-race; Competition, Off road and
Pro-street.


http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch ... sku&RC=100

The concenceous leans *ha* toward the TF-2 which is only $49.95 through summit. and even says right on the site "Kits do not include instructions or installation video" Joshie where did you get yours from ?

I have the TF904/727 Transtar teardown and rebuild manual, not only that but there is a trans star bout 8miles up the road from me and they are a transgo distributor, also will be calling them tomorrow for prices and availability.

I still need some auto functions Shaker, and if its full manual, kickdown is not required.

-Mike

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:48 pm 
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I can't believe they don't come with instructions..........

But I can see no video coming with them.


Anyway, get your video here: (highspeed connection recommended)

http://www.txchange.com/tgpvid.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:30 am 
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The concenceous leans *ha* toward the TF-2 which is only $49.95 through summit. and even says right on the site "Kits do not include instructions or installation video"
-Mike
I find it hard to believe, it does not include install instructions. I wonder if that is just a misprint on the Summit site, and they mean that it does not include the just video.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:42 am 
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What exactly is the difference between the TF-1 and TF-2?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:48 am 
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What exactly is the difference between the TF-1 and TF-2?
Basically it is the amount of shift "improvement". Years ago the transgo kit was just one kit, that allowed 3 different levels of improvement.

"heavy duty" for towing, etc. It gave a firmer shift then stock
"street/strip" Gave even harder shifts. It could actually be anoying on a daily driver.
Kickdown linkage required on both of these.

"Full race" A full manual shift. Will not shift automaticly. No KD linkage needed.

It looks like they have now made them 3 different kits.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:16 am 
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Mine is full race but still retains the kick down linkage.


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