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Author:  NewSlanter [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Wiper issues
Not too sure I'm posting this in the right forum, but here goes:

My wiper parking switch seems to be NFG. I didn't even realize I had one (wipers always just stopped dead wherever they were when I shut off the switch), however yesterday, after driving to work, I shut them off and, as if by magic, they returned to a position lower than they had ever previously gone. I have not been able to duplicate this effect. It seems to me I must have a faulty parking switch. Is this a serviceable component? Is there a PN# for a replacement? It is a "3-speed" wiper motor in a 1970 Dart.

Any advice?

Thanks,

Nat
Author:  THOR [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:53 pm ]
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Could be that the switch is just corroded and dirty on the inside, and that one time it worked.... or it could be that the park brushes on the motor are wiped, and they just so happened to work that one time.

~THOR~
Author:  NewSlanter [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:59 pm ]
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THOR,
Thanks for the reply. I'll pull the switch and clean it up later. If it's the motor brushes, how do I fix it? Are wiper motor brushes available?

Thanks again,

Nat
Author:  THOR [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:22 pm ]
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Worn brushes in the motor typically mean that it's time for a new motor. I am not sure what you can dig up as far as rebuild parts, but if the switch doesn't fix it, you may consider taking it to a trusted alternator/starter rebuild shop. They should be able to fix it up pretty easily.

~THOR~
Author:  steponmebbbboom [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:16 pm ]
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Worn brushes wont stop a wiper motor from parking, it is the contacts in your switch. try pressing the knob in like a button, it may force them into contact. i have been limping the wipers into park this way for years...
Author:  NewSlanter [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:56 pm ]
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When I press the knob in, wiper fluid sprays on the windscreen. The switch is sealed too, so I'm gonna hunt me up a replacement. Y'know? It's funny. It didn't bother me not having a working parking switch until I found out the car had one that simply wasn't working. Now it drives me spare.

Thanks,

Nat
Author:  Slanted Opinion [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:17 am ]
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Wow... you have an electric washer motor?! I have to pump the plunger on the floor!

You guys and your modern 1970 cars!

-Mac
Author:  slantvaliant [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:57 am ]
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Quote:
Wow... you have an electric washer motor?! I have to pump the plunger on the floor!
You have washers? I have to get out and use a spray bottle!
Author:  KBB_of_TMC [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:09 am ]
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I've worked with a lot of variable & 3speed setups. The logic is moderately tricky (see the FSM for a truth table), and the normal park function on most actually reverses the motor's direction, causing the wiper to swing in a longer arc than normal and park lower. All the 3speed setups I've work on required a good ground at the switch to function properly.

I've seen an E-body with a ungrounded switch that left the 3sp motor getting current all the time and getting hot while not moving.

Note that the park switch cam breaks very easily if it gets forced. It is fairly easy to access, but I don't know where to get a replacement.
Author:  steponmebbbboom [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:41 pm ]
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what does that cam look like?
Author:  NewSlanter [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:06 pm ]
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I opened up the cover on the gearbox and inspected the contacts on the park switch. They were clean as a whistle, but I cleaned them anyways. Nothing looks broken in there, but the park function still doesn't work. I'm starting to suspect a bad connection somewhere up the line. Any pointers on troubleshooting the wiring? I am by no means an electrician.

Thanks,

Nat
Author:  steponmebbbboom [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:12 pm ]
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yes, i will try to walk you through it. what colours are the wires at your motor? do you have four; blue brown red and green?
Author:  NewSlanter [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:23 pm ]
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They're all more or less grime coloured :oops: I'll take a picture and post it tomorrow.

Thanks again,

Nat
Author:  steponmebbbboom [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:35 pm ]
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if they are the colours i described, you can force the motor into park by disconnecting the plug, jumping green wire to brown, connecting red to ground, and blue to +12V. this will run the motor to park position and stop. if the motor does not run, then the motor's park switch is open. this may be because the gear and cam mechanism are not closing it, due to being broken or improperly assembled. the design varies, a photo of the open gear housing assembly will tell us more. i am quite certain that the motor needs to be in a specific position in order to disassemble and reassemble the gear and cam assembly properly and without damage, if i had a manual for your specific car i could tell you. most wiper motors have a service position for the gear and cam assembly.

if the motor parks the wipers as normal during the test, your dash switch or the wiring leading up to it are faulty. get out your multimeter and we will test the wiring and switch.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:02 pm ]
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Stand back, Dr. Steponmebbbboom is in da HOUSE! :cool: ;-)
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