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Author:  CrAlt [ Sat Feb 09, 2002 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Best carb/intake combo EVER

Well what is it? For all out speed. tripple side draft webbers? hyperpack? 6 holley 1920's :)

Not looking at cost what would you guys go with?

Author:  Daniel J. Stern [ Sat Feb 09, 2002 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

Quote:
: Well what is it?


There is no such a thing as "the best". Every car/engine/trans/equipment/purpose combination is different.
:
: For all out speed.

Everybody's definition of "all out speed" is different. Some people mean the "all out speed" you want going down the 1/4 mile, some mean around a circle track, some mean in a road rallye, some mean down to the Safeway for a quart of Cherry Garcia ice cream...
:
: Not looking at cost what would you guys go
: with?

Electronic fuel injection.

DS


redbear@vrx.net

Author:  CrAlt [ Sat Feb 09, 2002 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

Quote:
: There is no such a thing as "the
: best". Every
: car/engine/trans/equipment/purpose
: combination is different.
:
: Everybody's definition of "all out
: speed" is different. Some people mean
: the "all out speed" you want going
: down the 1/4 mile, some mean around a circle
: track, some mean in a road rallye, some mean
: down to the Safeway for a quart of Cherry
: Garcia ice cream...
:
: Electronic fuel injection.
:
: DS


ok lets say 1/4mile. big cam hi comp slant in an a-body.

Author:  Daniel J. Stern [ Sat Feb 09, 2002 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

Quote:
: ok lets say 1/4mile. big cam hi comp slant in
: an a-body.


What's a "big" cam?
What's "high compression"?
What's an "A-body"? (2000-lb '62 2-door post? 3800lb '76 4-door?)

DS


redbear@vrx.net

Author:  dschumers [ Sat Feb 09, 2002 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

Quote:
: Well what is it? For all out speed. tripple
: side draft webbers? hyperpack? 6 holley
: 1920's :)
:
: Not looking at cost what would you guys go
: with?


CR, with your combo I would not be scared to run an Offy and an Edelbrock 500. Dennis


slantzilla@excite.com

Author:  65 Viper [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 1:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

I dont think theres an answer to this question yet, to much hem holin around.I think we all know what he means....

11.5to1 comp. minimum hes talking about.
around .560 lift im sure
A body with probably a weight of 2900 #s

I would assume triple side draught webers.They run excellent in aussie cars. Aussie 6s are different, but if you had the hp they do in there 6s,3 webers would work great for our /6's. If you had that comp and a big cam like that, 3 webers would have no problem. I would assume huge valves and porting,therefor, buzzing that thing REAL HIGH RPMS would work great for the 3 webers. IMO
Quote:
:
: What's a "big" cam?
: What's "high compression"?
: What's an "A-body"? (2000-lb '62
: 2-door post? 3800lb '76 4-door?)
:
: DS



kewda225ci@aol.com

Author:  Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra) [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best induction combo for a SL6 *PIC*

Quote:
: Well what is it? For all out speed. tripple
: side draft webbers? hyperpack? 6 holley
: 1920's : )
: Not looking at cost what would you guys go
: with?


For the "most" high RPM horsepower . . .
For that, you don't really need a carb., or fancy manifold, just spray the fuel right into the cylinders with a IRFI set-up. (Individual Runner Fuel Injection)

Here is a look at Mark Goodman's IRFI set-up on the Green Team Lancer, it is made-up of mostly Hilborn parts, We give this set-up a big "thumbs-up" for making great high RPM power. (although part throttle operation is not the best)

Let's face it, this type of system has no manifold restrictions, turns or bends to cause turbulance and mixture distribution is always "spot-on".

Be sure to search the message board for key word: Hilborn, we are trying to get them to produce another run of their SL6 system. They may even sell some semi-finished or raw manifold castings for those who may want to use them for an IR-EFI system. (email Hilborn ASAP if you have ANY interest) <A HREF="mailto:sales@hilborninjection.com">sales@hilborninjection.com</A>
DD

Hilborn IRFI, Front View
Image

Author:  CrAlt [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

Quote:
: He didn't specify. I was trying to get an
: understanding about what
: he wants to do. There is no such thing as
: "THE best" manifold/carb combo
: that does everything well. "All out
: speed" is not specific enough.
:
: They had plenty of Slant-6s just like ours in
: Australia. They also had Hemi-6s from
: '70-'81 which we did not have here.
: DS


I didnt post my numbers because this isnt really about my car. I was just asking what people thought the best setup would be. Just looking for new ideas/stuff i havnt seen before, like what DD posted.

Let me rephase this. Forget the A-body, forget the comp, etc. How about: "If you had all the time and money in the world, what would you bolt to your slant?"

Author:  Ron [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

The best combo I have seen for racing as for as tuning and performance and consistity is rons flying tolet.
This combo is used with great success in several slant racers. Easy to tune and simple to change parameters... But pricey.
Thanks, Ron

rpracing@catt.com

Author:  Daniel J. Stern [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

Quote:
: "If you had all the time and money in
: the world, what would you bolt to your
: slant?"


Now *that's* a question I could sink my teeth into!

A carefully-engineered, programmable sequential port fuel injection system and a supercharger or turbocharger.

DS



redbear@vrx.net

Author:  Daniel J. Stern [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best induction combo for a SL6

Quote:
: Be sure to search for Hilborn, we are trying to
: get them to produce another run of their
: system. They may even sell so semi-finished
: or raw manifold castings for those who may
: want to use them for an EFI system. (email
: Hilborn ASAP if you have ANY interest)


Ooh! Anyone got their e-mail address?

DS

redbear@vrx.net

Author:  Richard [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best carb/intake combo EVER

1 supercharger, two tubos and injection

and a water intercooler

There is no such a thing as "the
Quote:
: best". Every
: car/engine/trans/equipment/purpose
: combination is different.
:
: Everybody's definition of "all out
: speed" is different. Some people mean
: the "all out speed" you want going
: down the 1/4 mile, some mean around a circle
: track, some mean in a road rallye, some mean
: down to the Safeway for a quart of Cherry
: Garcia ice cream...
:
: Electronic fuel injection.
:
: DS

Author:  65 Viper [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DS Best carb/intake combo EVER

Were talking common sense here...he lists big everything, therefor, on THIS board, 250-350hp build ups is about right to ASSUME. Assuming goes a long way,hey, I just assumed again.we sure know he is not talking about 9 to 1 comp and a .460 lift cam with stock manifolds.......
Quote:
:
: The best combo i have seen for racing as for as
: tuning and performance and consistity is
: rons flying tolet. This combo is used with
: grear sucess in several slant racers. Easy
: to tune and simple to change parameters. But
: pricey Thanks Ron



kewda225ci@aol.com

Author:  Tim_K [ Sun Feb 10, 2002 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DS Best carb/intake combo EVER

Quote:
: Were talking common sense here...he lists big
: everything, therefor, on THIS board,
: 250-350hp build ups is about right to
: ASSUME. Assuming goes a long way,hey, I just
: assumed again.we sure know he is not talking
: about 9 to 1 comp and a .460 lift cam with
: stock manifolds.......


If money wasn't an issue, I'd build a Duster as light as possible, and the engine would get a high lift UltraDyne cam, and an Accel Gen 7 digital multipoint fuel injection system, and single or twin turbos. As long as money isn't a problem, a Billet CNC aluminum crossflow twin cam head would also be nice.

Author:  Ken Sharp [ Mon Feb 11, 2002 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best induction combo for a SL6

Quote:
:
: Looking at the picture of Mark Goodman's IRFI set-up on
: the Green Team Lancer, is that a thick spacer between the head and intake/exhaust mounts? The intake tubes appear welded to it and the exhaust is bolted on. What's the purpose/benefit, or is this part of the Goodman go-fast, secret stuff?


ksharp@iglou.com

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