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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:51 pm 
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what is all entailed when swapping from a hydraulic camshaft to a solid?

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You need to change the cam, lifters, pushrods, rocker arms and I believe the rocker shaft to swap from hydraulic to solid or from solid to hydraulic.

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Also heard that swapping the rear bolt on the rocker shaft is a good idea, that way when you go to set the valve lash, you dont have excessive oil up top.

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Also heard that swapping the rear bolt on the rocker shaft is a good idea, that way when you go to set the valve lash, you dont have excessive oil up top.

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Don't know for sure, but I think the bolt cannot be swapped. It has to match the threaded hole in the rocker shaft stand. The amount of oil up top is a function of the rear cam bearing journal. That is what meters the oil. The solid cam has two intersecting oil holes, that give a "pulse" of oil every cam revolution. The hydro cam has an annular groove, that gives constant oil flow.

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Also heard that swapping the rear bolt on the rocker shaft is a good idea, that way when you go to set the valve lash, you dont have excessive oil up top.

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Don't know for sure, but I think the bolt cannot be swapped. It has to match the threaded hole in the rocker shaft stand. The amount of oil up top is a function of the rear cam bearing journal. That is what meters the oil. The solid cam has two intersecting oil holes, that give a "pulse" of oil every cam revolution. The hydro cam has an annular groove, that gives constant oil flow.
Very possible that what you say is true. I can't seem to remember where I heard this from, but the explanation was that the shank on the bolt was a smaller size, to allow extra oil to flow up into the rocker shaft, so more would travel faster down to the lifters. The solid setup had a bolt with a slightly larger shank, so less would flow, seeing as how it doesnt need to feed a few hungry lifters....

Any experts on the topic have an idea?

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Very possible that what you say is true. I can't seem to remember where I heard this from, but the explanation was that the shank on the bolt was a smaller size, to allow extra oil to flow up into the rocker shaft, so more would travel faster down to the lifters. The solid setup had a bolt with a slightly larger shank, so less would flow, seeing as how it doesnt need to feed a few hungry lifters....

Any experts on the topic have an idea?

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It is correct there are at least two different bolts. I have seen that many, myself, but they were both on solid lifter heads. The shank, and the threads are different. I have never seen if the hydro heads are different, then these.

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FWIW, when I put a late hydraulic head on my solid lifter engine, I use my rocker arm from the solid engine and had to use the bolt from the late head. I did notice some extra flow, but so long as you drop the RPM's down to 500 when setting the valves, its not an issue.


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