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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:22 pm 
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I have a 65 Dart-w-a super six from an Aspen. I have the bracket from the Aspen I am using for my after market Sanden A/C compressor. I want to pur power steering on this car but the FSM shows no such option and I'm at a loss as to how the pump would mount. If anyone has A/C and Power steering and could post some info such as pictures/pitfalls I'd be very greatful.
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The belt routing and pump mounting is shown in the FSM. Section 7, cooling. Look for the section on adjusting belt tension. You'll need a P/S pump (or at very least a P/S pump pulley) from a slant-6 car equipped with A/C. You may have to try a couple different bracket and pump setups to find one that will fit your '65 car with '78 A/C compressor. There are also different high pressure lines (from pump to steering box) depending on which pump you're running. The A/C compressor is driven off the rearmost bolt-on pulley sheave on the vibration damper, and the P/S pump is driven off the frontmost. Cars with P/S and A/C thus have three belt sheaves on the crankshaft pulley.

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Howard, You stated "aftermarket" compressor. Where is the compressor drive pulley located. Behind the alternator pulley ( Damper), or in front of the alternator pulley?
If you want you can call me this evening. Let me know, and I will PM my phone number.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:14 am 
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It's a deviation from stock, but this worked for me.

http://www.slantsix.org/articles/vintag ... ge_Air.htm


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:22 am 
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Thanks for some great information. Unfortunately I will need a 3 sheeve dampener pulley I'm sure. My compressor is mounted almost the same as the one in the article-w-a couple of differences. I will post some pictures of my current setup. Does the heater hose recirculating valve come from the Vintage Air people or can I get one from a parts store or Chrysler? My wife has a 70 300 convertible and it has a valve-w-a cable going to the heater hoses.
One thing is certain-the evaporating unit I got from Classic Auto Air is a poor answer to putting A/C in a 65. It is a hulk and has 4 vents and can't be mounted in a manner that allows the water to drain out of it unless it is mounted higher than the dash allows so I had to drill a very noticeable hole low in the hump of the floor and it looks like garbage so this will all have to go.
Thanks much
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:54 am 
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Thanks for some great information. Unfortunately I will need a 3 sheeve dampener pulley I'm sure. My compressor is mounted almost the same as the one in the article-w-a couple of differences. I will post some pictures of my current setup. Does the heater hose recirculating valve come from the Vintage Air people or can I get one from a parts store or Chrysler? My wife has a 70 300 convertible and it has a valve-w-a cable going to the heater hoses.
One thing is certain-the evaporating unit I got from Classic Auto Air is a poor answer to putting A/C in a 65. It is a hulk and has 4 vents and can't be mounted in a manner that allows the water to drain out of it unless it is mounted higher than the dash allows so I had to drill a very noticeable hole low in the hump of the floor and it looks like garbage so this will all have to go.
Thanks much
Howard
I used the stock pulleys from the Aspen. The inside one was a double sheave, made from formed steel, while the third (outer) was cast and deep set to fit inside the first pulley.

The heater hose valve was part of the Vintage Air kit, but as noted in the article, something was amiss with the electronic control. I didn't look forward to removing the wiring and controls to troubleshoot, so I just moved the valve manually for a couple of years. The cheap, Chinese made valve quickly rusted out and I bought a generic cable-operated valve from the local auto parts store to replace it. It's also Chinese made, but couldn't be any worse than the orginal and it was half the price.


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Did you use seats from a 1996 Sebring convertible in your Valiant? If so how were they recovered?
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Did you use seats from a 1996 Sebring convertible in your Valiant? If so how were they recovered?
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The seats are from a '97 Sebring and they were recovered by a local upholstery shop. The guy complained about the difficulty, but I think he did a good job making them look like they could have come from an earlier era.

I don't know if he removed the old material, or if he covered over it. I believe the original material is bonded to the foam, so it might be difficult to remove.

As far as the year of the seats, the only differences I'm aware of are some wiring changes in the control module over the years, which may or may not affect the way it's hooked up in non-computer cars. I had no problem figuring out how to wire mine to make the inertia switch and solenoid work properly, however, the belt warning system and door controls are inoperative.


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