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| Author: | Andy's GT [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | gas tank woes (just when i thought i was good) kreem? |
so dad and i ran the dart dry about 2 years or so ago and then parked it, he put gas in it and it fired right up, then when i went to get it about 2 weeks ago it wouldnt stay running, hadnt changed the fuel filter for a while so threw a new one on and it was fine, ran like a champ all the way from illinois, stopped several times to check fluid etc...no problems at all, so today i got it licensed and went to go fill it up, wont stay running, try swapping in the extra fuel filter i bought, wont start. so i check and the elec pump is working fine, just for giggles i blew in the gas line towards the tank, hooked it back up and it worked, that got me about 2 blocks. repeated as necesarry until it was running great, and by that point i was closer to the gas station so tried to make it, wouldnt start back up even with me blowing in the line so all that to say: 1. should i replace the metal line too? it sat for 9 years before i got it and we did a little cleaning in the tank (diesel and a chain shaken around) back in 03, and replaced the sending unit, replaced rubber lines, filter, and pump since then, but not the metal line. if yes, i assume metal most the way and rubber at the ends is the safest/smartest thing to do, is that correct? 2. is metal line like brake line where you can go to a store and order how much you need, bend to fit? 3. anyone have any experience with kreem? seems to work according to reviews as long as you take your time and do it right, and cheaper then a new tank.... not looking forward to pulling the tank again by myself, but at least its mostly empty... (also, its a 67 dart gt) thanks! |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:30 pm ] |
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I've heard horror stories about kreme on various motorcycle forums................ No complaints about the POR15 tank product though..... So check out the POR15 tank product. |
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| Author: | Andy's GT [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:45 pm ] |
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yikes, thats getting closer to a new gas tank...still about half that i guess...hmmm...i have heard of por15 at least, but i feel like if im going to get up around 100 with shipping and have to turn my tank all around and let it dry and such, maybe i should just get a new tank...any second opinions? |
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| Author: | HardCharger [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:08 pm ] |
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Good on you for using just enough jerry rig to get out of a bad situation. I hope the fix goes smooth for ya. |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:14 pm ] |
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Glimpsed the POR15 instructions.... They say you don't really need a sealer unless there's pinhole leaks. You might just get away with a gravel and acid fix.... Put some gravel in tank and roll it around to breakup the big flakes, then some acid.......... Neutralize, wash it out and check for leaks. |
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| Author: | Andy's GT [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:16 pm ] |
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the por 15 acid stuff? i feel like i should put sealer in it to keep it from happening next time i park it for the winter, hmmm, if i had as much money as questions id be in good shape! thanks |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:24 pm ] |
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They use phosphoric acid............ I'd probably use muratic (HCl) from the hardware store |
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| Author: | Andy's GT [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:31 pm ] |
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great, thanks for the help, now my only question is, how do you make sure its all out? or how careful do you have to be to get it all out? seems like it could wreck some parts like floats, maybe rubber lines? just rinse good with gas and let it dry? |
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| Author: | Joshie225 [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:55 pm ] |
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If the plating in the tank is bad you'll get rust again right away if it's not coated. With ethanol in the fuel you will also have water in the fuel. A new tank may not be cheap, but it's really the best way to go. At least we can buy new tanks! I just put one in my '67 Valiant so I feel your pain. |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:47 pm ] |
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You remove the float and sending unit............ |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:48 pm ] |
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What is the inside of a tank plated with anyway? |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:45 pm ] |
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I wonder if a sacrafical zinc anode would work inside a gas tank like they do for steel bridges............. |
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| Author: | Joshie225 [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:54 pm ] |
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Gas tanks are galvanized. Zincs wouldn't work because gas is a dielectric. |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:00 pm ] |
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Galvanized is zinc, and tanks rust from the water vapor that gets in there..... |
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| Author: | Andy's GT [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:37 am ] |
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i think the tank i saw earlier was made out of zinc |
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