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Author:  theomahamoparguy [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:31 pm ]
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Hey, I went to the "salvage yard" the other day and there was a bunch of new vehicles that showed up, mostly trucks and suv's. Yep, there was one that had a slant, an 85 Dodge pickup. Then I noticed, much to my dismay, that the reason all the trucks were there was because of the cash for clunkers program. You guessed it, the slant had liquid glass poured in the oil and ran. I assume it would be locked up.
Does anyone know if anything is salvagable when this is done to an engine? Maybe the cylinder head?? I yanked the carb (an 1845) and that was it.
Author:  adiffrentcity [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:27 pm ]
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liquid glass?
Author:  Andy's GT [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:44 pm ]
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1845?
Author:  ceej [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:58 pm ]
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1945 I think he meant.

Where you at? I'd be willing to give it a go if you can get it cheap.

CJ

Edit: Oh shoot. Nebraska. Well, shoot. Pull it down if they'll let you have it, and we can try some things!
Author:  oldblue [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:50 pm ]
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What salvage yard?The vehicle is supposed to be crushed.No parts are to be sold.Scrap only the way I understand.
Author:  wicked/six [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:08 pm ]
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Only have to scrap the drive train. the rest of the car can be parted out as i understand it.

TF
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:13 am ]
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No. Once an engine has had "liquid glass" (sodium silicate) run through it, it is a block of concrete and cannot be salvaged.
Author:  Piston.Hurricane [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:25 am ]
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I always wondered what the liquid glass thing was after seeing a few cars in the jy's with flouresent orange spray paint all over the engines and a tag that spoke of it. I guess I'm still learning things from this site.
Author:  CudaViking [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:32 am ]
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No. Once an engine has had "liquid glass" (sodium silicate) run through it, it is a block of concrete and cannot be salvaged.
Ugh that makes my stomach cringe....
Author:  Doc [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:56 am ]
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Slants are pretty tough...
I would love to get my hands on one of these ""glassed" engines and attempt to pull it apart. ( I like a challenge)

Knowing the "ways of the world" and life for a wrecking yard employee... I wonder if they do the "destroy engine" process correctly or just go thru the motions.
I would bet that they start the engine, run it at high RPM and dump a load of the liquid glass stuff into it... hoping that the engine will seize-up as the stuff goes in. If it does not seize, I would bet that they shut it off, tag it as "done" and move-on to the next one.

I feel that if the engine core can be dis-assembled, (pistons not completely seized into the bores, con rods not "welded" to the crank) than the engine could be rebuilt, by giving it a big over-bore and all new components.

The way they use to do this process around here was to drill some holes into the engine block or smack a hole into it with a ball-peen hammer. :shock:

Funny how a simple method is still effective. Drain the oil, put back the drain plug, take a garden hose and fill the engine with water then let it sit. The resulting rust attacks every machined surface and the engine is now junk. If you have ever disassembled a core engine that has sat out in the rain... you know.
DD
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:09 am ]
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It's not the wrecking yard that did the destruction, it's the dealer who received the clunked vehicle in trade. Want your stomach to turn? Watch the engine destruction process at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XnGNiL6fGo
Author:  Doc [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:55 am ]
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Thanks for the link...
Looks like that process works well... The employee doing the job seemed to be enjoying his work!
No, I don't need to dis-assemble one of those engine... there are better "cores" to be had out there.
DD
Author:  Old6rodder [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:20 am ]
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I've worked with sodium silicate and it's effects (ceramics industry) for rather a long time. Haven't personally seen it run in an engine (nor am I likely to, the video's enough) but I woudn't bother trying to salvage one that's gotten up to temperature with that inside.
Author:  Wizard [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:36 am ]
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I saw several C4C blow-up videos and some of distressed engines tossed rods onto ground with big ends still glowing red hot!

Cheers, Wizard
Author:  theomahamoparguy [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:14 pm ]
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hey guys. sorry I haven't got back sooner on this. I could try an salvage anything off this motor, they dont seem to care at the yard. I was just wondering if the glass welds the head to the block. One other note, how would a person remove a transmission from one of these motors if it is locked up? Would be kinda hard to get to all of the flex plate bolts. Can you jusr leave the convertor on the engine and pull the trans fron it?

Im gonna try to pull the head and will tell of results asap. Wish me luck!
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