Yes james,my light is similar to yours,other than mine is 5 years old and doesn,t have a voltmeter function.And you only paid $100 for yours?-OUCH! I paid "closer to $200"for mine
Oh well,I use it every day,so it's still paid for itself.
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| Author: | Russ [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Dial Back Timing Light |
HI, has anyone ever used a dial back timing light, and if so would someone please explain the advantage to using one ,and the merits of such a tool ? thank-you, Russ |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:05 pm ] |
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The idea behind a dial-back timing light is that you can see the timing beyond the narrow range marked off on the timing indicator (typically just 10 before to 10 after or so). But you don't need a dial-back timing light to do it. See this thread. |
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| Author: | james longhurst [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Advance timing light? |
I just bought one after many years of marking my balancers (IIRC, one inch on a Mopar balancer equals 16 degrees) as my trusty Craftsman light finally died after 24 years of service I'll say this, it's real nice to enter you desired timing and just turning your distributor to zero. If you're doing some serious tuning, a good advance light is the way to go. -James |
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| Author: | bigslant6fan [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:13 pm ] |
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Don,t buy a craftsman one,it wasn't sensitive enough to work on point ignitions. |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: - |
Quote: Don,t buy a craftsman one,it wasn't sensitive enough to work on point ignitions.
Really............My craftsman dialback never had/has a problem with points. (of course it's at least 20 years old...........) |
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| Author: | tophat [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:45 am ] |
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Don't buy the Harbor Freight one either. I bought one in an "emergency" and later compared it to a Mac light, the HF light was not consistent. Setting the dial at say 10, would some times be 8, move the dial and set it back to 10 again and it might be 12. That is the difference between a $35 light and a $135 light. TopHat |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: - |
Quote: Don,t buy a craftsman one,it wasn't sensitive enough to work on point ignitions.
That doesn't make any sense. The timing light uses an inductive pickup, clamped on the spark plug wire. It has no connection to the primary side of the ign system (points, mag pickup, are primary side).My Sears Craftsmen light gave me exelent service for probably 20 years. When I broke the dialback control, the repair parts were n/a. Sears gave me a 50% off trade in on a new light, which I have been using for about 5-6 years, on every type system. I have heard of some timing lights not working properly with multiple discharge ign systems (MSD, etc), but I have no personal knowledge of that. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:50 am ] |
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Tophat's got an excellent point: if your budget is such that you can either buy a relatively good quality standard timing light or a relatively poor quality dial-back light, get the good quality standard light for sure. Shop around (tool stores, flea markets, pawn shops, eBay, Craigslist) for a used major-brand light; don't buy the Chinese trash sold by Harbor Freight and the like. And if you're still running points, spend your money on an electronic ignition upgrade rather than a fancier-than-basic timing light. |
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| Author: | bigslant6fan [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:55 pm ] |
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O.K. my 15 year old craftsman timing light died 5years ago so I replaced it with another.It would not work with the combination of breaker points and moroso blue max wires.My guess is the points had less power and the ign. wires had too good of shielding to trigger the timing light.Who knows,maybe the new timing light was defective,but I'm a heavy equipment mechanic,and work on lots of older stuff with ign.points.I got my money back on the crapsman light and bought a ferret brand timing light that has worked well for me. I believe upgrading to better wires is more important than the stock ign. system,assuming it's working well.Wanna waste time and money?,buy a $200-$300 ign system and put junk carbon core wires on it.Even new,fancy looking carbon core wires are junk to me, They will be ruined quickly leaving you with weird missfire problems. |
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| Author: | james longhurst [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:30 am ] |
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If that Ferret light is the one I'm thinking of it's pretty nice. I bought the Innova Pro series which looks identical (backlit display with rpm/advance/dwell and volt readout.) Found it for 100 bucks on amazon.com (it was about 200 everywhere else) and have been very happy with it so far. Worked fine on a friend's '34 Ford with a Hyfire-6 box and Unilite distributor. Very nice timing lights. -James |
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| Author: | Russ [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:39 pm ] |
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Uh-oh, Well i bought a craftsman dial back light and used it today. 74 dollars, doesnt have the RPM readout feature like some of the others do. It does what it says it was going to do, and ive got the motor timed with initial, and advance. Just came back from a run. Going to fiddle with the vacuum advance and carb next. Russ |
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| Author: | bigslant6fan [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:24 pm ] |
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Yes james,my light is similar to yours,other than mine is 5 years old and doesn,t have a voltmeter function.And you only paid $100 for yours?-OUCH! I paid "closer to $200"for mine Oh well,I use it every day,so it's still paid for itself.
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| Author: | james longhurst [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:03 am ] |
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Heck, I recall seeing that Ferret light advertised for much more than 200 in my searches. I didn't even consider it since I don't really need mine for work anymore. The new cars don't have any adjustment, so no sense in buying a super nice one off the tool truck. -James |
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