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 Post subject: ATF and polyurethane
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:04 pm 
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A question was asked of me yesterday, Did I ever hear that ATF is detrimental to a poly trans mount? Can any one conferm or dismiss?
I have never heard of that before.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:06 pm 
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Shouldn't be. I hadn't heard anything of the sort either.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:10 pm 
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I know tranny fluid will soften some types of rubber but I think poly is OK

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 Post subject: Atf
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:47 pm 
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What a cool chart. I like that sewage was a #4 and type A transmission fluid was a #1. Diesel oil got a #3 rating. I have some left over poly bushings that I won't be using and used tranny fliud that I am going to soak them in for 30 days and see what happens.


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 Post subject: ATF and polyurethane
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:44 pm 
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I was playing Mithbusters about ATF and if it destroyed, degraded polyurethane. Using used ATF and having the bushing completely submerged for 32 days the poly is just fine. Just one of those FYI things.


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Romeo, I think The science channel has a show for you.... Hot rod Myth Busters.. - I am sure a few other folks from the board would not mind co-Hosting with you!


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What sort of stress tests did you subject the poly bushing to? Did you do and pre-soak baseline tests to measure the performance of the bushing before submersion so you could accurately compare after submersion performance?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:55 pm 
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Sounds familiar ,, a few others have said that.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:00 pm 
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Really just a squish test with a vice before and after to see if it softened.
Not very scientific more like "I wonder if" You know, Caveman science 101


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That most alcohol and stuff in the fuel is negative for poly, is no great surprise, I think that would be a natural assumption.
but,
the Ethylene Glycol rates 4 = severe effect. :shock:

That's antifreeze for the radiator, better no spill any coolant!

Detergent Solution also rates 4??

Does that mean I have to wrap my engine mounts to clean the engine? What if they are full of sewage? (don't laugh - my fathers car was parked 2 feet away from a sewage pipe that burst...)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:32 pm 
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Just use hot high pressure water, like what is dispensed at coin operated car washes.

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Romeo, May I suggest you follow the protocol outlinedhere for testing a similar seamingly indestructible substance. Take note of their Solubility Test…LOL

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:51 am 
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wjajr, Entertaining and disturbing at the same time.
At work a few guys were sitting around a outside lunch table and one had birthday cake from his kids party from a few days before. Now the great minds started to ponder,,,Icing,,,how long will that stuff last?? So he got up and smeered some on the wall........We looked at that stuff for two years everyday,no birds, no bugs, ever touched it.Even rain had almost no effect. Rain did get the best of it after a long,,long time.
Again,, Caveman science 101.........


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:58 pm 
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margine was designed as turkey food...but they will not eat it... so it became replacement for butter .... think about it.....there is none in our home


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