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 Post subject: what oil
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:04 am 
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For my new build, full stocker, I was thinking of using what I use for my high power vw engines. It's called brad Penn. It's a partial synthetic, and has more zinc then newer oils. The oil is green in color, and is from the old kendall plant. They also have a break in oil and high detergent. Also I'm wondering what weight should I run in a brand new engine. Or should I stick with cheap old non syn valvoline

I will also run in comp cam additive since the service manual states to use a break in add. For new motors.


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 Post subject: Break in....
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Stocker rebuild, I'd use 10W-30 and Comp Cam's "secret sauce"...after that 10W-30 is fine, synth not necessary. Make sure to use a good oil filter (like Wix 51515).

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:58 am 
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I Always use a wix filter, or a billet/stainless steel mesh reusable filter.


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with the penn you dont need to run any additives...

it has plenty of ZDDP and the other stuff think 1100-1300ppm if i remember which is perfect... adding more can actually cause problems...

i was running penn and never had an issue BUT for the same price you can get VR1 from any parts store... it also has plenty of the good stuff in it...

so if you plan on driving it you might want to think about that... availability...

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Brad Penn is easy for me. Lot of vw guys use it


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Brad Penn is easy for me. Lot of vw guys use it
i can get it from one place near me(25 miles away) and one other place (50+ miles) in PHX...

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That sucks, I get it at a big rig oil and gas stop.60 bucks a case. I use to be able to get it at sc fuels for 54 a case, but the guy who supplied it works there no longer and they won't let me to get in touch with him.


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If you're in a hot climate, you can also use a 15W-40 Heavy Duty Engine Oil because the factory recommended a similar but now not commonly available 20W-40. Dual-rated HDEOs with an API CI-4 or CH-4 AND SL or SJ will generally have the highest amounts of ZDDP but you don't really need a lot of ZDDP for a stock engine.

Chrysler Oil Recommendations


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If you're in a hot climate, you can also use a 15W-40 Heavy Duty Engine Oil because the factory recommended a similar but now not commonly available 20W-40. Dual-rated HDEOs with an API CI-4 or CH-4 AND SL or SJ will generally have the highest amounts of ZDDP but you don't really need a lot of ZDDP for a stock engine.

Chrysler Oil Recommendations
the zddp is needed for the piston skirts and flat tappet cams... a stock engine has both and was deigned to have those properties to keep wear down

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the zddp is needed for the piston skirts and flat tappet cams... a stock engine has both and was deigned to have those properties to keep wear down
Arrrgh. Not again! :roll:

If it'll make you all warm and fuzzy to use a special oil, go for it, but know that it is not necessary or beneficial to run special, hard-to-get, expensive, boutique speciality oils. Regular current-production off-the-shelf reputable-brand oil is more than fine. Please see previous discussions here and here.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:03 am 
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the zddp is needed for the piston skirts and flat tappet cams... a stock engine has both and was deigned to have those properties to keep wear down
Arrrgh. Not again! :roll:

If it'll make you all warm and fuzzy to use a special oil, go for it, but know that it is not necessary or beneficial to run special, hard-to-get, expensive, boutique speciality oils. Regular current-production off-the-shelf reputable-brand oil is more than fine. Please see previous discussions here and here.
well considering VR1 or penn is just over 4 bucks a quarts, just a dollar more than GTX im not taking the chance...

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well considering VR1 or penn is just over 4 bucks a quarts, just a dollar more than GTX im not taking the chance...
Okeh, well, as I say, if it gives you a warm fuzzy, that's fine. But do some research (actual research, not guessing/assuming) and you will find out that VR1 isn't anywhere near as good as you seem to think it is.

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Hey, what do you all think of the quality of Wolf's Head oil?

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