I know Howard Davis with the "Hillside Six" runs them, but I have no idea where they get them.
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| Author: | Tom Drake [ Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Copper Head gasket |
Has anyone on here bought one and if so who from and how much$$? Tom |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:55 pm ] |
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I know Howard Davis with the "Hillside Six" runs them, but I have no idea where they get them.
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| Author: | Doctor Dodge [ Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:32 pm ] |
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Cox Boys and Goodman have also run solid copper head gaskets. I think Dave Mueller has also used them but I'm not 100% sure on that. DD |
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| Author: | Slant Cecil [ Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:54 pm ] |
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Clifford shows them in their catalog. Made by SCE. Cecil |
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| Author: | Rick Covalt [ Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | O-Rings |
Do you know if all these require O-rings? Rick |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:05 pm ] |
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Rick, Howard said the ones they used had O-rings on all oil and water passages and still leaked. |
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| Author: | Jopapa [ Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:02 am ] |
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So then what's the common consensus on the best type of head gasket to use? |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:13 am ] |
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Cox Bros. sell the copper head gaskets, in different thickness. I bought one for my turbo engine but havn't installed it yet. |
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| Author: | MitchB [ Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:36 am ] |
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Copper gaskets will always weep coolant. They won't outright leak, but you'll find the head and block will always be damp. Why not use Felpro's composite gasket? I did primarily because I could not find a steel shim gasket. No problems. Uncompressed, this gasket was ~.045 thick, so calculate your compression ratio accordingly. Mitch |
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| Author: | Rick Covalt [ Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Head Gasket & Boost |
I am mainly asking about the head gasket for a future turbo project? If the cooper ones are all going to leak, are any of the composite gaskets better than the others for a turbo set-up. Charlie, what are you running? And at what boost? I'm assuming that the o-ring grooves would need to be cut in the block while at the machine shop. In other words it could not be done with the head removed and the engine still in the car? Rick |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Wed Jan 15, 2003 8:09 am ] |
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When my turbo car was running, I used the FelPro head gasket. At about 11 lbs of boost I did have a gasket go bad. I was not useing special fasteners. The motor I am putting together now, has the block "O"-ringed, and I will be using the Cox Bros copper gasket, with head studs. |
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| Author: | 60Pioneer [ Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:44 pm ] |
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Jopapa, Are you looking at a Street or Strip application? For street, I agree that the Felpro Permatorque can't be beat. If you're racing (I believe) that the copper can be reused. Also, with a variety of thicknesses, the copper can be used to ensure that your clearances are "just right". Not real important unless you're set up right on the ragged edge of clearance with your pistons and valves. Just my $0.02 Gilly |
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| Author: | Jopapa [ Wed Jan 15, 2003 6:17 pm ] |
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Quote: Jopapa,
I'm trying to build up a good street rod that can be occasionally raced for fun (no pro racing here), but if the Felpro gasket can stand up to high(er) compression from a milled head and (if they can fit with a milled head) high compression pistons, and doens't weep at all, I'll likely be more than happy with that.
Are you looking at a Street or Strip application? For street, I agree that the Felpro Permatorque can't be beat. If you're racing (I believe) that the copper can be reused. Also, with a variety of thicknesses, the copper can be used to ensure that your clearances are "just right". Not real important unless you're set up right on the ragged edge of clearance with your pistons and valves. Just my $0.02 Gilly |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Wed Jan 15, 2003 6:42 pm ] |
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Jopapa, You will have absolutely no problems with a Fel-Pro or similar composite head gasket. They'll be good until at least 12:1 comp if your surfaces are reasonably flat. Lou |
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| Author: | Guest [ Wed Jan 15, 2003 6:56 pm ] |
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If you do not detonate the engine, you will likely not have a problem with the head gasket. My understanding is the head has a pretty good deck thickness. If the block deck is also reasonably thick, then you should be in good shape. Use ARP studs. Just be careful of your tune. Don't run into detonation. Mitch Twin turbo 93 TBird |
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