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Author:  vynn3 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Spline Count
Okay guys, pardon my ignorance, as I've never worked on/with a manual trans car, only driven them. ;)

Right now I'm collecting parts to convert my Swinger from auto to 4-speed. When/if I ever get it converted, my plan is to (one day) buy the new Passon 5-spd, which should swap directly with the A-833.

Okay, the new 5-spd is an 18 spline trans. Slants seem to use the 23 spline trans. My question is this: will I be able to accommodate an 18 spline transmission with available slant six parts? Is this just a clutch issue?
Author:  Joshie225 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:32 am ]
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You will need a custom clutch disc. Spec Clutch can make you one.
Author:  vynn3 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:16 pm ]
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Cool, thanks.

So, without contacting them to quote something I won't need for several years, what do you guys think we're talking, here -- an extra $100? $300? over the price of a standard clutch?

I just want to make sure it's a financially viable option before I proceed...
Author:  Joshie225 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:20 pm ]
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The clutch disc is likely close to the $100. As they say if you have to ask (about the cost of the clutch) you can't afford it (the Passon 5-speed). When Spec made me a clutch to mate a Toyota R154 to an LA engine the custom clutch spline cost me nothing extra.
Author:  vynn3 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:00 pm ]
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Sorry, I meant the extra cost for the custom spline above and beyond the price of the clutch itself. From your comments, I'm guessing that will be negligible.

All I needed to know! Thanks, Mr. Skinner!
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:27 am ]
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If you plan on the 5 speed in the future and will be putting it behind a slant,Passion should be able to outfit his with a 23 spline. Just ask.
Author:  vynn3 [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:41 am ]
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Didn't think of that. Thanks!

BTW, always been a huge fan of the Dust ya!
Author:  Rick Covalt [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:41 am ]
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Ryan and I spoke to Jamie at Carlisle and brought up this very issue. He said he could get a clutch disc made up to work if we needed one. He diidn't act like it was any big deal. Didn't ask price. Sorry.

Rick
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:02 am ]
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Thanks,Vynn3, I liked it too. We all do dumb thing like getting rid of a perfectly good car. Whouda,couda,shoulda,,,

Jammie is a great person to work with. I told him to get everything together so I can put that set up in my 63 Valiant at his leasure..
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:13 am ]
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I talked to Jamie @ carlisle 2011 About the possibility of making the A-855 5 speed with the 1x23 input shaft - And he said that they were not too instestered in doing this.. Instead he suggested that I get a 10" clutch with the Hemi sized (1 3/16" X 18 ) input Splines on the center of the clutch..

I asked him to possibly think about tooling up to make the A-855 with the 1x23 Input shaft as well..

I think the more slant people that bug him abou this the better..

Romeo maybe you have some clout here??
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Greg
Author:  Rick Covalt [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:48 pm ]
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As long as we can get a 10" clutch in a 18 spline ( even if it has to be custom made), you will probably never see a 23 spline 5 speed. I think we would have a much better chance of having him source the clutch disc we need to make it work. The more people that ask ....etc

Rick
Author:  sandy in BC [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:36 pm ]
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I went through the spline thing long ago with my RAP 5 speed. 9.25 Dodge 23 spline clutch is almost the same as Ford 23 spline.......almost

You can get any spline in any disc for a pretty reasonable price

I think I paid $130 foir my McLeod 9.25 ceramic disc with Ford spline.
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:40 pm ]
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I used to see him several times a year and we did many project cars together(before he became famous). But if you guys are serious and may be do a group buy I will see if I got any clout left.... Right now I know he is consumed with getting his tranny to market.
Author:  Rick Covalt [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:25 pm ]
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Romeo, feel free to ask him, but I don't see much more than a handful of Slant 6 people doing a swap like this for what it costs. 99% of us are tightwads.

You might be able to get a group buy, but the problem is that they don't need it yet because the tranny is not out yet. As soon as it comes out, then all the Slant 6 folks that want one will be running around looking to have them made.

If Jamie can get them made and have a part # ready to go when the transmission comes out that would be a big plus.

I also think the disc should be of the dual friction type so it holds up well on dragstrip.

Thanks, Rick
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Passion 5 speed
Clicked off a e-mail to Mr. Passion and I hope will will here from him in the near future....
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