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Author:  MoGas [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Engine ID help

Howdy,
I have a '63 D100 with the Slant 6. I'm trying to ID it.
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It has a casting number of 2463430-5 with a 2 and 7 above it and then some sort of logo and a dial that I presume is a shift dial that is pointing to the middle. Are there any other casting numbers or stampings that I should look for to get the build date narrowed down?

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I found this in the glove box. Where would it mount?
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Thanks,
Dave

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:49 am ]
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2463430 means it's a '63-'66 RG (225) block. Go round the other side and scrape the grease off the boss at the top of the block, facing the sky, just below the frontmost spark plug. You'll find a stamping there -- let us know what it says (all of it) and the build date of your engine can at least be approximated.

Author:  Reed [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:28 am ]
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Howdy, I found this in the glove box. Where would it mount?
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Thanks,
Dave
That appears to me to be an old (VERY old) glass bowl fuel filter, possibly with a replaceable element. To be safe, it shouldn't mount anywhere on your vehicle. However, it was probably plumbed in somewhere on the fuel line. If you really want to use it, and I don't recommend you do, I would mount it close to the frame rail in the engine compartment in the fuel line before the fuel pump. Glass can break and the last thing you want is gasoline spilling all over the ground or onto your hot engine near either the spark plug leads or the hot exhaust manifold.

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:51 am ]
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That fuel filter—yes, it has a serviceable element inside it—would have originally attached directly to the outlet of the fuel pump, and if you are bound and determined to use it, that's where it should go — fuel filters do not belong anywhere on the suction side of a mechanical fuel pump, where they will cause vapour lock. But I do share Reed's skittishness about glass in the fuel system. Sure, a glass fuel filter (or a glass carburetor bowl) is nifty, but they are probably best consigned to the Kodachrome memories in our head, alongside "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette!" and "Dome light hits heads of children standing in the rear" (complaint printed in a Popular Science owner report on the new '60 Valiant) and "It's safer not to wear a seatbelt; that way in a crash I'll be thrown clear of the car", and "Kids, if you don't finish your homework you can't go outside and play in the mosquito fog": bad ideas that belong to an era when cancer and car crash deaths and such were regarded as bad things that just unavoidably happened and couldn't be prevented.

Author:  MoGas [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Engine ID help

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I found that the DPCD stands for Dodge-Plymouth-Chrysler-DeSoto

Author:  MoGas [ Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:51 pm ]
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2463430 means it's a '63-'66 RG (225) block. Go round the other side and scrape the grease off the boss at the top of the block, facing the sky, just below the frontmost spark plug. You'll find a stamping there -- let us know what it says (all of it) and the build date of your engine can at least be approximated.
Here you go:

TT22 3 07

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Author:  Mroldfart2u [ Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:51 pm ]
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2463430 means it's a '63-'66 RG (225) block. Go round the other side and scrape the grease off the boss at the top of the block, facing the sky, just below the frontmost spark plug. You'll find a stamping there -- let us know what it says (all of it) and the build date of your engine can at least be approximated.
Here you go:

TT22 3 07

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WOW a great pic AND a hole knocked into it....

Author:  MoGas [ Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:29 pm ]
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WOW a great pic AND a hole knocked into it....
Huh?

Author:  emsvitil [ Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:24 pm ]
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I think the 'hole' is a rubber tab from the valve cover gasket.......

Author:  MoGas [ Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:30 am ]
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Were stamping a different between car and truck engines? Did the 10,000 day calendar not apply to trucks?

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:51 am ]
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TT22 3 07
T: Truck engine
T: 1963 model year
22: 225 cubic inch displacement
3 07: Engine built on March 7, 1963

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:53 am ]
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Were stamping a different between car and truck engines? Did the 10,000 day calendar not apply to trucks?
The early stampings like yours are relatively consistent, but in later years engine stampings were different from plant to plant, shift to shift, year to year, and probably phase of the moon. The parts and service manuals make it appear as though there's one uniform system per year. There is not. Engine stampings have to decoded one at a time. After 1965 sometimes you get a 4-digit 10-kiloday calendar date stamp, sometimes you get a day/month date stamp, sometimes you get no date stamp. Sometimes "T" means "Truck", sometimes it means "1963", sometimes it means "Trenton (engine plant)". Sometimes "R" means "regular fuel", sometimes it means "passenger car engine". I think a drunk trunk monkey came up with whatever "system" they used to decide which engine would get what stamping.

Author:  MoGas [ Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:48 am ]
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Well, that changes my ideas for the truck. I think it is safe to state that this is the original engine, so it will not be pulled for a 360 any time soon as I am somewhat of a purist. Had it turned out different, I could do a swap like that and sleep at night.

The modifications that have already been made will stay (NP420 in place of the original A754 and a late 60's truck rear axle with wheel drum parking brakes and flanged axles) as that is how I got the truck.

Thanks for the help decoding this,
Dave

Author:  wjajr [ Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:05 am ]
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Dan:
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drunk trunk monkey
Well Shazam! How can one top a liquored up ape for pure entertainment?

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