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Author:  Slanty [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:59 pm ]
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Yesterday i was at the junkyard and i got a keyless entry remote and module,i got home and wired it up...since i dont have power door locks yet that wasent a option,but i did wire the remote trunk trigger to the starter relay,it triggers the starter for approx 3-6 secs,so i ran a switch to power my hei to send full batt. voltage to the igntion system when its flipped on,so now when i park the car i can flip the switch so when i get out all i gota do is tap the remote button ad it starts right up!
Author:  Slanted Opinion [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:14 am ]
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Cool! But how do you set the choke and fast idle cam (assuming this is a classic slanted car)?

- Mac
Author:  phogroian [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:43 am ]
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On my low-priced, generic remote, there are four relays that can be set to momentary or latching actuation. One is for the the trunk release (momentary); one goes to the ignition (latching); one to the starter relay (momentary) and one (again, momentary) to a 12V solenoid that has enough throw length and "oomph" to punch the throttle linkage enough to set the high idle, close the choke, and prime the gas. I chose a "push" instead of a "pull" action with the solenoid because I did not want it to touch or interfere with the movement of the throtte in any way when it was not in use.

So the starting order order is:
1) hit the choke primer button a few times
2) then the ignition button
3) the starter button until the engine starts
4) (after minute) the choke primer again to kick it into a low idle.

This is on a car with automatic transmission. It is not recommended for a manual transmission car, which would need to be left in neutral (obvious safety concerns with that; the car could roll away if left in neutral, or could lurch when the starter is engaged if not left in neutral).

Once you are in the car, you can put the key in, turn on the ignition, and cut the power to the wireless receiver.

This setup was super-easy to install in my '65 Valiant because there is easy access to the ignition switch. I ran one wire in to the engine compartment for the solenoid. One wire to the fuse box under the dash to poer the remote receiver. The rest was spliced intto the ignition switch commector plug under the dash.
Author:  mattelderca [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:54 am ]
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Of course non of these solutions are legal in any way and have no safeties built into them.
You can purchase a proper remote starter for around 50 bucks. With a little thought and some small fab work you could install one the right way and be fully safety compliant. I know, shoot me if you must, but if your car ends up running across a road and killing somebody, don't say you weren't warned.
You can just call me a party pooper.
Oh, yes, it has happened.
Author:  nzpete [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:53 pm ]
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I agree with mattelderca, especially if manual trans, it is down right dangerous...I know someone that had one that pushed the button in the car park, he got back to his car and had a lady lying dead underneath it.

Also please explain why you decided to add a remote starter. I just don't understand the point of it.
Author:  phogroian [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:39 pm ]
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I mentioned the safety problem concerning a manual transmission in my earlier post.

Safety is relative; I am driving a 50 year old car with little crash protection, no airbags, lap belts only, steel dash with no padding, no headrest for whiplash protection, drum brakes....

At least I put a dual chamber master brake cylinder into the car.

The only saftey issue I can imagine with the remote start system I have set up is if it malfuntioned while I was driving it, and my carburetor solenoid actuated randomly, goosing the throttle a little bit. But it couldn't do that, since I cut power to the remote system when I get into the car.

Why install it? it's awfully nice to have your engine start on a cold day while you're still inside your front door getting your boots, gloves, and coat on... and by the time you have the windshield scraped free of frost, the engine is warm enough to provide some effective defogging heat to the windhield. Driving with a foggy windshield IS a safety concern.

What can I say? The car hasn't caught fire and the wheels haven't fallen off. Yet. I'm not worried about the remote start.
Author:  mattelderca [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:36 pm ]
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I should point out that I myself, do have a remote starter on one of my cars and use it routinely. I cannot say enough about getting into a warm frost free car before driving off down a rural road on dark mornings.
Author:  Slanty [ Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:48 pm ]
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where can i get a latching relay?and where i live its usually warm enough to start without the fast idle choke..i actually have it unhooked
Author:  mattelderca [ Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:14 pm ]
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where can i get a latching relay?and where i live its usually warm enough to start without the fast idle choke..i actually have it unhooked
What might you mean by a "latching" relay?
You can latch any DPST relay, actually you can latch a regular Bosch style SPDT relay but it limits it's control.
Author:  phogroian [ Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:34 pm ]
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-CH-4-Relay-43 ... 20cba41b9c



"4 CH/4 Relay 433M RF Wireless Remote Control Controller Switch DC 12V Latch"
Author:  Slanty [ Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:46 am ]
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so how do you set relay to latch?im not sure
Author:  mattelderca [ Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:29 am ]
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so how do you set relay to latch?im not sure
It depends on the circuit or control you are using.
In the remote control module linked above, it is a setting of the module that determines latch or momentary.
If you just want a simple circuit with say a momentary push button to turn something on, then a second momentary button to turn it off again, you can use a regular Bosch relay.
Here are a few links to look over and a photo of a simple latch.
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In this diagram COM is -, put a NC pushbutton switch in that line and it becomes you OFF switch.
Here is the original link to the discussion. I just pulled these from google.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showt ... p?t=372281

In this example your ON switch should be able to handle the same current as the relay, the off switch just needs to handle the small current of the relay. If you want to use small, low current switches, use a double pole relay. One pole handels the controlled current and the other latches the relay.
Author:  Slanty [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:38 pm ]
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ok i wired it like that but it stays latched
Author:  phogroian [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:43 am ]
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Yes- it will stay latched (of course, that's what you want). In this simple circuit, the temporary application of current to the relay windings causes it to feed current to itself, perpetuating its activation (it is now latched). You could insert another temporary switch, or even a normally closed remote relay, in the current stream to interrupt one of the leads powering the winding. The cutting of power should, within a fraction of a second, collapse the magnetic field and power down the relay, so it is waiting for another "start" command from you.
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