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Author:  urbanyi1 [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  1976 Plymouth Volare slant 6
I have oil leaking from the oil filter bracket assembly. Trying to find out if it is possible to change a gasket or seal without having to drop the oil pan.
Author:  Reed [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:14 pm ]
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The oil filter screws onto the oil pump which is mounted on the side of the block. The oil filter can be changed without dropping the pan. The oil pump can be removed without dropping the pan, but the motor must be jacked up about four inches to do it.
Author:  urbanyi1 [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:31 pm ]
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It's not coming from the filter, it is coming from where the filter assy bolts to the block.
Author:  DusterIdiot [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Here...
http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic ... ump+change

You'll need a gasket from your local auto parts store (I think Felpro versions are a few bux...call around to see who has one in town on the shelf).

When you get the pump off (5 or 6 bolt version), clean the mating surfaces really good before installing the gasket and pump. Make sure to check the gasket for correct installation on the pump before you go back under there (you can put it on backwards...).

-D.Idiot
Author:  Reed [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:04 pm ]
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What you call the "filter bracket assembly" and the "filter assy" the rest of us call the "oil pump."

As I said,
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The oil filter screws onto the oil pump which is mounted on the side of the block.
Author:  Nabby [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:23 am ]
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Do you have a Chilton/Haynes on it? If not, I can pick mine up while I'm at my storage unit tomorrow and get you scans. I have a 77 Volare. I think the 76 is the same generation. It's always nice to have step by step pics.
Author:  wjajr [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:09 am ]
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Do you have a Chilton/Haynes on it? If not,
Too bad, as you don’t have a nice door stop or vertical shim to place on driver’s seat to elevate ones view of road. H & C manuals are very incomplete, and often have bad info. If you don’t believe that statement, than why is FSM four to five times as thick, and has twice as many chapters?

Get a digital or paper copy of a Factory Service Manual for your car; it’s the best tool one can have.
Author:  olafla [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:40 am ]
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...but the motor must be jacked up about four inches to do it
Not on an F-body, plenty room there! :D

Olaf
Author:  Nabby [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:36 am ]
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Get a digital or paper copy of a Factory Service Manual for your car; it’s the best tool one can have.
Where do I go about finding one of those? The only time I've ever bought an FSM was a five volume set for when my buddy and I were rebuilding Mavericks. Never found one for the Volare/Aspen, but I've been able to get by with the Chilton. The best I could find for my Grand Am was a Haynes and it's... not that great.
Author:  DusterIdiot [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:38 am ]
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Never found one for the Volare/Aspen,
1976-1980 FSM, Electrical, FSM and Parts Catalog are either a CD thing or you shop around.

-D.Idiot
Author:  olafla [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:45 am ]
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Rockauto.com->Plymouth->1976->225->Literature->Repair Manual

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinf ... cc=1069400

Olaf
Author:  Reed [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:21 am ]
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...but the motor must be jacked up about four inches to do it
Not on an F-body, plenty room there! :D

Olaf
Actually, yes it still needs to be jacked up on an F body. Back when I had my old 78 Volare station wagon I had to change the oil pump and I had to jack up the motor. If the motor isn't raised the pump will slide almost far enough out of the block but the drive gear will still be in the block. No amount of twisting or pulling or swearing at it will get the oil pump out of the block without jacking up the engine. Only trucks and vans and industrial applications have enough clearance to pull the oil pump without jacking up the motor.
Author:  64ragtop [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:46 pm ]
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Do you have a Chilton/Haynes on it? If not,
Too bad, as you don’t have a nice door stop or vertical shim to place on driver’s seat to elevate ones view of road. H & C manuals are very incomplete, and often have bad info. If you don’t believe that statement, than why is FSM four to five times as thick, and has twice as many chapters?

Get a digital or paper copy of a Factory Service Manual for your car; it’s the best tool one can have.
A while back, someone (SSDan??) posted the correct procedure for using those non-factory manuals that some folks insist on using for reference on their cars, 'cause they're cheap. Guessing at the correct search terms hasn't worked to find that masterpiece of technical journalism. Can anyone post a link?? Thanks!

BC
Author:  olafla [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:08 am ]
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No amount of twisting or pulling or swearing at it will get the oil pump out of the block without jacking up the engine. Only trucks and vans and industrial applications have enough clearance to pull the oil pump without jacking up the motor.
Years ago I managed to remove my oil pump to replace the gasket, without the need for jacking. The manual says jack up the engine front 1-1/2 to 2 inches at the front edge of the oil pan, though, I agree on that. :D

Olaf
Author:  Reed [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:37 am ]
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I would truly be surprised if you were able to get the oil pump out of the block on an f body without jacking up the motor or bending or cutting the inner fender structure.
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