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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:47 pm 
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2 BBL ''SuperSix''

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Location: Pasadena CA
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Hi, I am having a bit of an issue. The car runs great at all other times except when I am trying to get it to pull at higher revs . For lack of better terms it seems to hiccup. like vroom put vroom put vroom put, until I lay off the gas and feather back to current speed and then runs great again. 60-70 mph passes are awesome but the car wont go past 80.
My set up:
1972 225
Clifford intake
Weber 38 electric choke
Clifford headers to dual 2.25
Pertronics II
ignitor II coil
ZFR5N Plugs
new carter mechanical fuel pump through rerouted fuel line with redline regulator to carb


Any Ideas? Am I running out of gas?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:11 am 
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Location: Downeast Maine
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What is your rear gear ratio, and tire size?
What is fuel regulator set at?

Dose engine falter when going up long steep hill at lower speeds with large throttle opening?

I suspect that engine is fuel starved at high load conditions such as pushing to 80 mph.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:11 pm 
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Location: Black Diamond, WA
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Good points......I vote for lack of fuel and in combination with lots of timing. With better fuel lines and new fuel hoses at the tank, pump and carb mine will easily go 90 mph with a near stock cam. I test it from time to time on the freeway on ramps. If I can hit 90 mph at the end of the ramp, I am happy. :D

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74 Swinger, 9.5 comp 254/.435 lift cam, 904, ram air, electric fans, 2.5" HP2 & FM70 ex, 1920 Holley#56jet, 2.76 8 3/4 Sure-Grip, 26" tires, 25+MPG


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:46 pm 
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Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:37 am
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Location: United States
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Hi, I am having a bit of an issue. The car runs great at all other times except when I am trying to get it to pull at higher revs . For lack of better terms it seems to hiccup. like vroom put vroom put vroom put, until I lay off the gas and feather back to current speed and then runs great again. 60-70 mph passes are awesome but the car wont go past 80.
My set up:
1972 225
Clifford intake
Weber 38 electric choke
Clifford headers to dual 2.25
Pertronics II
ignitor II coil
ZFR5N Plugs
new carter mechanical fuel pump through rerouted fuel line with redline regulator to carb


Any Ideas? Am I running out of gas?
I am dealing with other issues all together with 38DGES swap... I had similar problems earlier today and corrected with jetting. I have S6 intake, Ignitor II, Flame II, Magnecore wires, 3.5 regulated PSI, 5/16 fuel lines, adn have corrected high rpm/mph hiccups by jetting as follows...
50 IA
145 MAIN
170 AC
9 deg timing
NGK V-power stock gap
87 Oct fuel

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:45 pm 
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2 BBL ''SuperSix''

Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:12 am
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Location: Pasadena CA
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What is your rear gear ratio, and tire size?

Not sure of gear ratio, but tires are 195/70/14

What is fuel regulator set at?

I think it is 3psi

Dose engine falter when going up long steep hill at lower speeds with large throttle opening?

Have not encountered this driving condition yet

I suspect that engine is fuel starved at high load conditions such as pushing to 80 mph.

My buddy thinks it is the fuel pump, but that does not seem likely to me.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:52 pm 
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2 BBL ''SuperSix''

Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:12 am
Posts: 22
Location: Pasadena CA
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Hi, I am having a bit of an issue. The car runs great at all other times except when I am trying to get it to pull at higher revs . For lack of better terms it seems to hiccup. like vroom put vroom put vroom put, until I lay off the gas and feather back to current speed and then runs great again. 60-70 mph passes are awesome but the car wont go past 80.
My set up:
1972 225
Clifford intake
Weber 38 electric choke
Clifford headers to dual 2.25
Pertronics II
ignitor II coil
ZFR5N Plugs
new carter mechanical fuel pump through rerouted fuel line with redline regulator to carb


Any Ideas? Am I running out of gas?
I am dealing with other issues all together with 38DGES swap... I had similar problems earlier today and corrected with jetting. I have S6 intake, Ignitor II, Flame II, Magnecore wires, 3.5 regulated PSI, 5/16 fuel lines, adn have corrected high rpm/mph hiccups by jetting as follows...
50 IA
145 MAIN
170 AC
9 deg timing
NGK V-power stock gap
87 Oct fuel

Thanks for the advise

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 Post subject: I think I nailed it
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:42 pm 
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2 BBL ''SuperSix''

Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:12 am
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Location: Pasadena CA
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I started farting around with the fuel regulator and though I don't have a pressure gauge, which I think I will get, I increased the pressure just a little at first then tested and got positive results so I increased just a tad more and after a couple of on ramp blasts I had not one hiccup which I am sure I would have had before, not to mention the engine runs stronger and smoother at all revs now :shock: needless to say I am very pleased.

Thank you to everyone that chimed in with suggestions and advice I always appreciate those of you that try to help.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:35 pm 
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Turbo Slant 6
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Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:29 pm
Posts: 676
Location: Seattle, WA
Car Model: 75 Dart SE (2),75 Swinger, 74 Dart Sport,91 Ram RV
I had the same thing happen on a stock 75 with the 1945 carb. Inside the carb. top, found the power enrichment valve retainer bushing had fallen out (normally staked in position), allowing the valve assembly to wobble around. Engine ran great at everything except high "passing' RPM. When I relaxed a little on the pedal it smoothed out. Found the surge happened at only high RPM- passing in "Drive" or romping on it in "Drive 2". No problems after re-staking the valve into position. (904 trans)

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