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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:47 pm 
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I just received new springs and bushings from ESPO.

Something is amiss. The shackle bushings are approx 1 3/8" long (from the back of the shoulder to the end) each. The spring is 2.5" wide. This makes the bushings about 1/4" too wide for the pair.

Did I get sent the wrong bushings? Is there even such a thing as a 2.75" wide spring? Or do I have it all wrong and one is just expected to torque them down and have them squish? That just seems to be a lot to squish together. I held the bushings together outside the spring and confirmed what I had measured.

They had convinced me to go rubber instead of poly for comfort/vibration etc. After this size snafu I wish I would have stuck to my gut and got the poly. I could cut/sand these down to length then get a poly set and swap them out later as that could be done while its all on the car, but the front eye would still be rubber. Hmm... decisions decisions.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:58 pm 
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Is there an internal metal sleeve?

If so, what's it's length?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:05 am 
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No metal sleeve on the shackle end. The bushings are 1/2" id for a 1/2" bolt.


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I think the rubber ones are made oversize so they are squished in by the shackles.

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The bushings are the same on the body side I know, but isn't the body mount also the same width as the spring? I'm having trouble seeing the problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:48 pm 
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The problem I envisioned - the bushings would be 1/4" wider then the spring, allowing the spring to slide side to side.

I talked to ESPO today - they said they gave me the right bushings. Their preference was to use bushings slightly longer so when the shackles squeeze them together they will expand and hold better. I realized I could squeeze them together by hand to some extent so the shackle should have no issue compressing it.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:09 pm 
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1/4'' total, or a total of 1/2'' too large? If a total of 1/8'' on each side I wouldn't have a problem installing them.1/4'' on each side seems a bit too much.Remember that the shackle has a shoulder that will stop the squish when tightened.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:44 pm 
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I read it as 1/4" total

1/8" per side


Which I would also consider squishable

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:31 pm 
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Emsvitil was right, it was 1/8" per bushing - stock length bushing is 1.25", the espo ones were 1 3/8.


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