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 Post subject: 5 spd trans
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:40 pm 
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Hi guys. I looking to put a 5spd in my 66 valiant with a /6 and 3spd. Anyone know what trans to use, what bellhousing to use etc. thank you for the help!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:49 pm 
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Look at the next thread by Sam Powell. He may sell you his? :lol: :lol:

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I think the easiest thing for you to do would be to put a 4 speed in it. There was a Mopar 4spd which works well behind the slant, that had 4th gear as an overdrive. Ratios are wide, but no wider than your 3 speed, and the 4 speed is fully syncronized. The 70's era cars with a slant will have the bell housing that will work for sure for you. I think you can use the same clutch linkage with both. You will need to cut the floor and put in a higher hump to go over the 4 speed and allow space for the shifter. You may have to change driveshafts. I think the 4 speed takes a slip yoke which is the same as the 727 auto uses.

Putting a 5 speed in is a much bigger deal. I used a Ford T-5 out of a 4 cylinder Mustang from 1987. You must get all the same stuff you would need for the Mopar 4 spd plus an adapter plate the mate the T-5 to the Mopar bell. I actually cut away the cross member to accommodate the larger size of the T-5. Some do not do this, but I wished to raise the tail shaft up slightly to maintain factory alignment.

There is much more to say.

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 Post subject: 5 spd
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thanks for the reply!


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A sorta-option is the 5-speed supposedly coming out from Passion Performance. It's only "sorta" an option because it's been "coming soon" for at least a couple of years. I'd expect it to be price competitive with other 5-speed kits, but with the benefit that it's supposed to fit anywhere the factory Mopar 4-speed did without cutting the car.

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 Post subject: Passion performance
PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:26 pm 
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Last time I look the trans was out- just dont know about avalibility for $1900

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 Post subject: /6 4spd
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:21 am 
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ok i'll go with aod 4spd, but who has one and what should i be asking for, what did it come in? thanks again for the help!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:00 am 
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Look for a trans/bellhousing out of a '74 and up A or F body. You will also need the shifter and the yoke for your driveshaft.

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 Post subject: 5 spd
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:04 pm 
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thanks you!!!


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 Post subject: Correction...
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:37 pm 
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Look for a trans/bellhousing out of a '74 and up A or F body. You will also need the shifter and the yoke for your driveshaft.
If it was a stock vehicle you are looking for a 1975-1976 A-body, or a 1976-1980 F-body. Like Big D said if you can get the whole smash (shifter, yoke, shift rods, clutch fork, etc...), it will make things easier. Try to avoid the 1975-1987 Truck version as it has a longer tailshaft and you will do a work around in trying to make it ft (see 4 spd article on this board).

Also note that most units will need a rebuild even if the "owner" said it worked great.

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You will also need to modify the bellcrank and the bellhousing mount point, because they are not the same between your dart and any f-body.


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 Post subject: 5 speed
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:50 pm 
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Hi,

I've spent a lot of time on our 62 Valiant and the 4 speed conversion. I strongly recommend contacting Brewers about your options. Here's their website http://www.brewersperformance.com/ Wayne has been a huge help in giving me quality part/service when I needed it. They're currently rebuilding me an overdrive tranny.

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There's an OD setup for sale in the PARTS for sale section now.

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 Post subject: So...
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:56 am 
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They're currently rebuilding me an overdrive tranny.
Just curious, how much will that cost? The last one I had refurbished (I didn't have the time to do myself) was only $318 (I have a local guy that's been doing mopar trannies for 30+ years). If you are drag racing with it I would suggest using the iron case unit, I initially used the aluminum case unit and after 10 races it started to whine in OD while daily driving, the iron case unit I have has taken a lot of hard power launches and is quiet in all forward gears.

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 Post subject: 5 spd
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:06 am 
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no more drag racing for me, just cars shows and crusing.


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