Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Thu Feb 13, 2025 3:06 pm

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:40 am 
Offline
Supercharged

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:48 pm
Posts: 3830
Location: Indianapolis
Car Model:
starting this thread as a place to post useful information concerning automotive wiring products and techniques. This is not a good thread to post electrical problems, but it is a good place to post product information and good places to buy wiring supplies from.

here is a product for labeling wires for future identification...

Mity Mark,,, wire lables, numbers and colors
http://www.mitymark.com/MityMark-wire-m ... nsers.aspx


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:24 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 289
Location: Leesburg Indiana
Car Model:
This is great Idea.
Couple of years ago rewired the truck under hood and to the back.
Still haven't done under the dash.
These are place I ordered from. All good experience's.

http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18960-Ra ... B006O1Y1FY Says it does weather pack connectors but I couldn't figure it out.
http://www.repairconnector.com/ for pigtails and lamp socket brass terminals
http://www.halfpricecaraudio.com/ I ordered heavy gauge cable from them.
http://www.corsa-technic.com/index.php terminals
http://motorsportswiring.com/ Ordered wire here great to deal with. They sell the same wire that Painless Performance sells in bulk that they use fro their harness at much less price.
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/O_E_M_ ... _s/259.htm Ordered
http://www.pcsconnectors.com/ their sight is down as of posting for redesign. They carry the Packard 59 terminals for headlights. Their the only ones i found that carry it in a double wire crimp.
Great for when you want to run grounds and power wires from headlamp socket to another.
Meaning you can crimps 2 wires side by side in the terminal.
http://www.prime4x4.com/ I ordered military style battery clamps and covers from them. Great service.
http://rockauto.com/
http://www.securecableties.com/ShoppingCart.aspx Spiral wrap and loom
https://www.terminalsandconnectors.com/ If you find a terminal you need somewhere else on the web, I found these guys to be cheaper sometimes.
http://www.amazon.com/Delphi-Packard-We ... sbs_auto_2 This thing did great job and should do metri pack connectors also. I will find out soon and update.
These folks have power distribution centers from both LITTELFUSE / COLE HERSEE and COOPER BUSSMANN
http://www.waytekwire.com/products/1369 ... nt=Modules
More distro/Junction block http://www.eficonnection.com/eficonnect ... ItemId=761
Here is wiring guide shows what gauge to use on particular curcuit http://www.tessco.com/yts/industry/prod ... wired.html
Good info on fuse's and fusible link's(PDF) http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/hweb1.pdf
External voltage regulator kit for those that have computer controlled voltage regulator http://alternatorparts.com/external-vol ... r-kit.html
Pretty good video on making a good crimp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u_EkMsioMY

Dave

_________________
86 Miser 170,000+
2 1/4" exhaust
Holley 1920 #55
HEI MSD BLaster 2
17.8 mpg


Last edited by xjarhead on Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:12 am, edited 2 times in total.

Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:48 am 
Offline
Supercharged

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:48 pm
Posts: 3830
Location: Indianapolis
Car Model:
these folks have an assortment of electrical hardware.

I got great pricing on closeout LED's

http://www.mpja.com/


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:44 am 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 289
Location: Leesburg Indiana
Car Model:
Found link to some possible bulkhead replacement options.
http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/Cata ... nction.pdf

Dave

_________________
86 Miser 170,000+
2 1/4" exhaust
Holley 1920 #55
HEI MSD BLaster 2
17.8 mpg


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:06 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:13 pm
Posts: 439
Location: South Austin, Texas
Car Model:
Bulkhead replacement info is great, but I'm thinking that if my bulkhead connector was beyond repair I would just use the plastic housing and splice all the wires "color to color" and soldered and shrink tubed with sealant and forget the disconnect function.
Wasn't that simply a production line feature anyway? The only reason I've ever had to open a bulkhead connector is to survey it for damage, clean, (or replace) individual contacts, grease and re-assemble.
Further, the replacement connectors they sell would require firewall modification to fit and be weather tight. No particular reason not to do it, but seems pretty labor intensive and costly (parts and tools) for not much gain.

But, as always of course, I could be wrong!

BC

_________________
'64 Dart GT convertible, 64 Dart 170 2-door post sedan in faded blue and rust (the Az Dart) & a sixty THREE Dart 170 2-door post sedan in faded blue and rust. (future project)
Early Dart Disorder (EDD) is real, and I've got it!


Last edited by 64ragtop on Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:55 am 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 289
Location: Leesburg Indiana
Car Model:
I posted it because people have shown interest in it. http://slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... +connector
When you get ready to solder and tape or shrink wrap those wires at the bulkhead are you going to do it from under the dash or are you going to crawl into the engine compartment.
Having rewired a few vehicles in my time, my 86 2 years ago, I cant imagine soldering the 40 some wire's going thru that connector from either one of those 2 locations.
Yes none are factory replacements but people customize vehicles all the time.
And Hey yours would be custom to if you did it your way.
I just wanted to show people there are option's out there and you have shown there is another.

Dave

_________________
86 Miser 170,000+
2 1/4" exhaust
Holley 1920 #55
HEI MSD BLaster 2
17.8 mpg


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:46 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:13 pm
Posts: 439
Location: South Austin, Texas
Car Model:
Hi, X. Thanks for showing the alternatives and the other info! All information is good info, even if it doesn't work out like expected.
My 64ragtop and the AZDart only have 16 wires going through the bulkhead and I would disconnect the dash harness and pull enough slack to do the splicing in the engine compartment, then re-connect the dash electrics.
I have soldered overhead, but only at gunpoint in the future!
There are always more than one way to skin a cat - but the cat won't like any of them, :lol:

BC

_________________
'64 Dart GT convertible, 64 Dart 170 2-door post sedan in faded blue and rust (the Az Dart) & a sixty THREE Dart 170 2-door post sedan in faded blue and rust. (future project)
Early Dart Disorder (EDD) is real, and I've got it!


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:47 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 289
Location: Leesburg Indiana
Car Model:
Here is a link to the Delphi Electrical Centers(Power Distribution Centers) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0EBfg ... sp=sharing
Mouser Electronics carries a lot of the items that can be purchased in volumes of 1 or more instead of having to buy bulk volumes.
Here is link to entire catalog https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0EBfg ... sp=sharing

Dave

_________________
86 Miser 170,000+
2 1/4" exhaust
Holley 1920 #55
HEI MSD BLaster 2
17.8 mpg


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:36 pm 
Offline
4 BBL ''Hyper-Pak''
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:58 pm
Posts: 48
Location: NB Canada
Car Model:
Not to sound like a newbe, but I have had luck with Canadian tire and Napa on occasion. Not the greatest, kinda hit and miss on availability and making sure the guy behind the counter understands what a distributor is.

_________________
Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:01 pm 
Offline
Supercharged

Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:53 pm
Posts: 4295
Location: Gaithersburg MD
Car Model:
When you to upgrading electronics or adding circuits it is nice to have a bulkhead connector for many reasons. When I started down the road of adding things I had no idea I would end up adding so much. I wish I had started with a bulkhead connector with large capacity. Each time I added something it would have been far simpler to plug in a new pair of connectors.

At this point I have maybe 20 or more extra wires strung through a hole in the firewall. Troubleshooting circuits is hard, and adding new ones is hard. Plus it is not weather, sound, or fume proof.

The problem is the design process is actually Rand D being done on actual hardware and not a design being drawn up on a diagram. Things are constantly changing and being modified. You just don't know what your final design is going to require.

I really wish I had started with a good bulkhead connector.

Sam

_________________
Image


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited