A few days ago I bought this carb off E-bay thinking I could use it for one of my super six conversions ( E-bay item # 151380470968 )



Received tonight and even though within the items description it states it is new it is a re-manufactured carb. Disappointing but I could have lived with that. Looking further into it I punched in C 6163 ( the number shown on the metal tag attached to the carb ) and it turns out that the carb was offered for Ford Torino Straight six 70-74. After calling Napa and giving them the number on the main body of the carb this part of carb shows as being used for various V-8 chrysler builds early 70s.

I dont suppose there is any chance that I could use this carb and expect any of my slant six trucks to run successfully and efficiently?

I have contacted the seller already with no response thus far.

Disgusted cause I thought that I had found a real bargain. Looking on-line and using the C-6163 number it does appear to be a 200 plus dollar carb and for the most part it does appear nearly identical to other Super Six BBD carbs I have.

That c6163 is just the brand p/n they use... I can tell by the tag its an "autoline" reman...

Reverse look-up here at work for you says that carb fits 78-79 full-size Chrysler with the 3.7l 225 six... With that, use it, it will be damn near perfect (assuming it is rebuilt with the proper parts) Good find if you got a good deal on it!

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78 Plymouth Volare Super Six wagon
89 Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
92 Chevrolet K1500 5.7
98 Ford Escort ZX2 zetech

Thats interesting, Napa and looking on-line never indicated anything slant six. An on-line search as well did not show this.

100 bucks, I thought a good deal but from what I have read never know what we are getting with a reman carb.

Who do you work for? You can P.M me that info if you feel better. I am going to have to do some more -re-search and would like to know whom shows a listing for this for a slant six engine. Thanks

Also what number did you do a reverse look-up with? Which specific number?, thanks again

Going directly to Autoline web-site I see now that it is a carb intended for a 1978 Dodge Aspen, manual trans 225 slant six or automatic trans with A/C.

I cant help but wonder if Rock Auto is offering them for 139 ( approx ) than why have I heard that this BBD is so tough to find in good condition for a reasonable price. 139 seems more than reasonable to me. Why are people fooling around with old worn out carbs trying to make them work better when they can buy this reconditioned unit so cheap?

Because it may or may not work when you put it on.

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Yes, as it could have a V8 body and Ford air horn, and a throttle plate from??? Then what jets does it have? How is the accel pump setup? What needle and seat was used? What float level was set (if at all)? That's why people prefer to find unmolested examples and rebuild them themselves. Then they are sure of what they have and any tuning required has a known starting point.

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78 NYB (gone now), two S series, three old Snow Cruisers and a Doo.

This is why I didn't dick around with them and went with a Brand new Weber instead, and couldn't have been happier!

I work for Clearlake Auto Parts (Auto Value store). We handle both Autoline and Vapex line of reman carburetors. Thats why I said you cant use thier number as a Carter number. Going that route it does cross to a ford carburetor. I just went through the number listings until I found that number and checked the application for it Unfortunately, it is true you have to be careful with these remans, regardless of brand. You never really know what thtey had to do, or what they had to supplement to "reman" that carb...

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"if it aint broke, fix it till it is"
78 Plymouth Volare Super Six wagon
89 Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
92 Chevrolet K1500 5.7
98 Ford Escort ZX2 zetech

Ill never figure out people, I came home thinking to myself that Im going to e-mail the guy, aploigize if I caused him any stress cause evidently it is being sold for slant applications when I read his e-mail copied and pasted below in response to my mentioning that he listed it as new and it is reman. ........Seller's message:
"From the links and pictures I provided, you can clearly see the same exact carb fits the Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth 225 L6's. Check out the rockauto link and the autoparttoo website. I listed the carb as new because it's practically a new carb and hasn't been used since being remanned (that's why I listed it that way) I never used this carb as it sat in a box and I would never buy a carb that's not made to fit my application. It's clear in the pictures that's it remanned and marked with the tag from the remanufacturer. You will not find a "brand new" carb for 100.00 anywhere online as this is a great deal. I have lost money by selling it so cheap. "

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Quote: I listed the carb as new because it's practically a new carb End quote.

I must live on a different planet cause on my planet new means new, new dosent mean re-manufactured.

Now the guys just aggravating me so not sure which direction Im going to head in.

Thanks for the info above.

Because "remanufactured" carburetors, with a few rare and lucky exceptions, are junk. Greasy, crusty old carbs that haven't been "remanufactured" are often much better starting points, because they can be properly refurbished.

It is an error to think that a "remanufactured" carburetor has been "reconditioned".
Nope. It's not a new carb. It's a "remanufactured" one. There is a clear and unambiguous difference. The guy lied. The carb was inaccurately described.

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Im glad that you agree with the incorrect listing practice that I pointed out.

Especially dealing with Ebay! I have seen more items than Id care to mention listed as "new" or "unopened" that were clear as day not a new or unused/unopen part... Its pretty bad!

I personally bought a "Vapex" rebuilt carb for mine... While MOST of it was really well done, including the throttle being rebushed and them actually getting them centered, I did notice that the baffle for the float was missing, the spring in the step-up piston was obviously made to fit, nothing was even close to adjusted properly, and the biggest kicker is they will list ALL sl6 carbs under one or two part numbers... We all know that while outside looks the same, each slant got a different spring/rod/jet combo to fit the application, so be prepared to do a little homework and tuning that reman you got... I even had to go as far as getting another spring for mine as well finding someone here on this site hook me up with the original rods and cam combination for my application...

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"if it aint broke, fix it till it is"
78 Plymouth Volare Super Six wagon
89 Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
92 Chevrolet K1500 5.7
98 Ford Escort ZX2 zetech

Ive decided after reading everyone's comments that Im not backing down, the carb is going back to the seller once I fight it out thru the E-bay system.

Maybe the clincher was when I really started playing with it and sure enough the throttle shaft had ALOT of play, I have another BBD on my desk here and it has little to no play.

Another lesson learned.

Just keeps getting better, a few days ago I also purchased what was listed as a super six air cleaner assy ( E-bay item No 151382697157 ) I did not know that this was the same seller.

Seller just now responded to my carb case and said he was cancelling the air cleaner order cause he didnt want to have to explain how a 318 air cleaner was the same as the super six air cleaner and he knows I wont be satisfied with the air cleaner either.

I just looked and sure enough it is a 318 air claner with a super six lid, super six air cleaners have the round inlet tube, 318 has the oval intake tube end.

I did not notice that in the picture until he mentioned it just now. I gave him a piece of my mind, he does not care. Watch out for this seller