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| Author: | Effenaye [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2 wire distributor |
Doing an engine swap on my '63 Valiant. Replacing the stock 170 for a later model 225. This distributor on the 225 has two wires. Is this an HEI distributor? If it is, what else will I need to get? I'm using the coil that was on the engine when I bought it, but I'm wondering if something may have been left on the previous car? Thanks |
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| Author: | Effenaye [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:36 pm ] |
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This engine used to have a ported vacuum switch if that helps out for the age of the engine. Or should I just consider putting the distributor off the 170 which is a 1 wire unit? |
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| Author: | sixinthehead [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:01 am ] |
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If you want to get it running quickly, swap in the point style ('one wire' because the points inside are the ground path for the coil primary windings) distributor and save the electronic ignition style ('two wire' because it has a magnetic pickup inside to generate a signal to trigger a control box which in turn grounds the coil) until you have all the pieces to upgrade. That EI distributor will work with a Chrysler style ignition or the GM HEI style. Either way, you will need the appropriate control box and wiring harness, etc, to use the EI distributor. Another possibility is to use the point distributor to trigger an MSD style capacitve discharge system. Ever swap a distributor before? If not done properly your engine will not start, so read up in advance and/or get an experienced helper. |
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| Author: | nm9stheham [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:48 am ] |
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If you got this engine from another later donor car, this is most likely the Mopar electronic ignition system. (A photo of the distributor guts with the distributor cap and rotor removed would be good to see....) You will need to get the box on the fender or firewall with a 4 or 5 wire connector that looks like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Quality-Mo ... 1403089267 Also, get the connector and the ballast resistor and its connector; it might be different on the newer car. If you get all this and decide to use this, let us know how to get it hooked up. |
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| Author: | Effenaye [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:55 am ] |
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What other parts will I need? I have changed out distributors before. Is this one doable while the engine is in the car? It's a pretty tight fit. |
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| Author: | wjajr [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:51 pm ] |
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Quote: Is this one doable while the engine is in the car? It's a pretty tight fit
Yup, slides right out, but make note at to where rotor button is pointing before you pull out the distributor. Slant Six distributor drive is not a slot connection that has only two possible positions as found on Mopar and Chevy small block engines, but a helical gear with perhaps 8 or so teeth that mesh with the same on the camshaft. So, as you pull out the distributor its shaft & rotor will rotate a bit less than a quarter of a turn. If you are carful making a good mark or have photo to go by it should go back in place, but often one may miss alignment by one tooth in any direction causing too much or too little advance. |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:45 pm ] |
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That you want to examine the EI distributor first and make sure it is equipped with a vacuum advance canister, after 1981 some trucks and vans used a single connection distributor with no advance mechanisms (mechanical or vacuum) because they used the ESC system on the air cleaner)...these are a poor choice for daily driving unless you are using an aftermarket system that does the timing curve digitally, or need a locked out advance for drag racing. |
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| Author: | ceej [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Note II |
How late a 225? A '63 has a small register crankshaft. Anything '68 and later has a large register crank. CJ |
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| Author: | Effenaye [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:46 am ] |
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I'm guessing the engine is out of a '72 or later. It has the ported vacuum switch? I may have screwed up the HEI module, and/or the ignitor. I'm not getting spark even with a "hotwire" to the coil. Is there a good way to troubleshoot each of these? And if they're dead, one or both, what is the ignitor part I'll need to look for? I already know what and where to get the HEI module. |
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| Author: | WagonsRcool [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:07 pm ] |
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I wrote two threads on Chrysler EI http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56150 & http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56222. Give them a read. |
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