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 Post subject: Oil question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:37 am 
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Went to a Pep Boys here in town to have the oil changed in my 75 Duster (it's freakin' hot, here, yall). And when I checked the oil cold this morning after doing a few other things, I saw that it looked about a quarter inch over the full markings. The oil level was actually at the U in the FULL spelled on the dipstick. I don't think the car uses any oil (haven't had it long enough to really notice), but is this something I should worry enough about that I need to pull the plug and drain about .5 quart out?

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I would not worry about it. The factory stick can be off by 0.5-1 qt anyway, and 0.5 qt of overfill will not hurt anything.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:23 am 
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Keep an eye on it for a while though, if the level rises any your fuel pump is bad.
If it stays put, what Lou said.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:14 pm 
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Went to a Pep Boys here in town to have the oil changed in my 75 Duster
Good place to get your car ruined by jokers who couldn't quite keep up with the tasks at Burger King. Odds are pretty good they used a poor-quality filter, too.
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it looked about a quarter inch over the full markings.
Not optimal, but probably not a big deal. Does kinda show how much attention they weren't paying, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil question
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Good place to get your car ruined by jokers who couldn't quite keep up with the tasks at Burger King. Odds are pretty good they used a poor-quality filter, too.

On that subject I believe it is better not to let anyone do anything to your car. No one cares about your car like you do, to a shop you're just another face and another dollar.

Back in the stone ages when we were still writing on stone tablets one of my first jobs was briefly working at a local quick lube shop. They had none of the adapters or extensions for getting those hard to get to zerk fittings. The instructions I got was "just smear some grease around to make it look like you got it." :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Oil question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:58 pm 
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Good place to get your car ruined by jokers who couldn't quite keep up with the tasks at Burger King. Odds are pretty good they used a poor-quality filter, too.

On that subject I believe it is better not to let anyone do anything to your car. No one cares about your car like you do, to a shop you're just another face and another dollar.

Back in the stone ages when we were still writing on stone tablets one of my first jobs was briefly working at a local quick lube shop. They had none of the adapters or extensions for getting those hard to get to zerk fittings. The instructions I got was "just smear some grease around to make it look like you got it." :roll:
this isnt quite true, there are shops that care like you do, they are just rare. a local transmission shop here did a rebuild for me, and when he did the test drive, he didn't think the brake feel was the best so he bled the brakes and also changed the rear axle seals, both with no labour charged.

it helps that he is a mopar guy with probably 4 decades running a specialty shop, when i picked up the car he had a grand national on the lift and a 1950 something custom waiting to go in


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 Post subject: Re: Oil question
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:20 am 
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Good place to get your car ruined by jokers who couldn't quite keep up with the tasks at Burger King. Odds are pretty good they used a poor-quality filter, too.
Dan, I don't totally agree with that statement. I worked at a PEP Boys at one time, and MOST (note "MOST") of the techs were good. Like every shop with more then one tech, there were some that left something to be desired. The PB I worked at would give the customer the option to "upgrade" the oil and filter. I also know Independent shops that had good techs a month ago, and this week have idiots. There is no garunty(sp) who you will get to work on the car, unless you do it yourself

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Wow, high-horses anyone?

Look, I haven't had my gallbladder out 3 weeks, and the folks before me had diesel oil in the car before the change. It's 100 degrees, here, in Alabama, with a heat index of 110, and I can't quite say that's all a good equation to equal out to me changing the oil myself in the parking lot of our apartment building.

In a perfect world, I'd change it myself. I ask them to put ::gasp:: Lucas in it, so I imagine that's what threw their measurements off.

P.s. I researched the forums, here, while I waited on my account to get validated by an admin, so I ordered and took a Wix 51806 filter with me to have them put that on instead of their store brand.


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Wow, high-horses anyone?
No, not really. Just giving you a heads-up that while it's not guaranteed your car will be messed up if you let Pep Boys touch it, the risk is relatively high. Take that advice or don't; it's your choice. :shrug:

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 Post subject: Poop Boys
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I had PB replace a tire on our newish Dodge Caravan (30K miles) because we had a flat on a 1500 mile trip and they were the nearest place open on a Sunday. They didn't get the balance right and snapped TWO of the studs off! If they hadn't put the hubcap on cockeyed I never would have known about the studs because they certainly weren't going to say anything. I go there to buy basic items when there's a sale but that's it. Dan is close to the mark in my experience anyway. Not all techs are bad, but not all are competent either.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil question
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:41 am 
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this isnt quite true, there are shops that care like you do, they are just rare. a local transmission shop here did a rebuild for me, and when he did the test drive, he didn't think the brake feel was the best so he bled the brakes and also changed the rear axle seals, both with no labour charged.

it helps that he is a mopar guy with probably 4 decades running a specialty shop, when i picked up the car he had a grand national on the lift and a 1950 something custom waiting to go in
Well, when making a blanket statement like that I'm only speaking to the rule rather than the exception. It's great that some of you have found competent people, stick with them; they're few and far between.

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Went and had them drain about .5 quart out of the car this morning. The guy who serviced the oil the other day was the same that did the drain today. He kept swearing that the oil was supposed to be up in the FULL and not at the little marks on the dipstick.

Gonna find me another place to get the oil changed....


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He kept swearing that the oil was supposed to be up in the FULL and not at the little marks on the dipstick.
This something I don't get with these shops filling until it reaches some point on a stick. Pump in the five quarts with filter and be done with it as manual calls for.

Filling to a mark on dipstick will most likely result in a over fill as it takes cool fresh oil a little longer to fully drain down to sump.

I had this same problem when I had both the 82 Lebaron and at the time a 1998 Lincoln Continental DD a long time ago. One called for five quarts with filter change, the other six quarts with filter, and both ended up one quart over filled. Only an idiot would dump in six quarts into a four cylinder, than seven quarts (Mobil 1) into a Ford V8; beyond stupid. I brought both back, had them drain out a quart from each and a refund on the oil I returned.

This however has not prevented my purchasing of various solvents, fluids, wax and other sundries incidental to futzing with cars, food stuffs such as bacon mayo, sugar free popsicles, caned beans, whipped butter, multi pack ham stakes etc., and $4 prescriptions from Wallyworld.

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The dipstick in my truck was broken so I used one for a SBC because I had one new and unused. I changed the oil, added 6 quarts (oversized filter) and carved a notch in the dipstick after the 5th quart and at full. Done.

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