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Author: | armyofchuckness [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Ram air from core support? |
Hey, guys. My 64 Valiant is about ready to go in for paint, but there's one last modification I'm considering. I've seen a few guys hook up things like air boxes that shovel air from the built in battery ventilation hole in the core support and they've claimed it does good things (Battery obviously moved to the trunk). I was thinking of doing something similar but instead of using the stock hole (which is quite a bit less than 3" in diameter), enlarging the hole to 3", maybe 4" and, using an inline filter, basically creating a closed intake that would create an oversized snorkel, shoving cold air into the intake. My question is, for a car that would be street driven, would this hurt the car in stop-and-go traffic? Do you think it would starve the intake of air? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
Author: | slantvaliant [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:13 am ] |
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Here's MY APPROACH, keeping the battery up front and cutting a hole in the other side of the core support. [/img] |
Author: | armyofchuckness [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:10 am ] |
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Quote: Here's MY APPROACH, keeping the battery up front and cutting a hole in the other side of the core support.
Thanks for sharing! That's a good idea as well. I've already prepped my car for trunk battery location, so I might as well do mine on the driver's side. I was just concerned that it would stall the car in stop-and-go scenarios.
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Author: | sandy in BC [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:31 am ] |
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It might stop the car at 65 on the freeway in the rain if you dont allow for rain, birds, burger wrappers,,,, Mr Slantvaliant has a good position for the intake. Aspens had a nice factory setup that can be modded. Your stop and go will be fine |
Author: | armyofchuckness [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:13 am ] |
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Good point, Sandy. I hadn't thought about rain. I was gonna add a strainer for bugs, and I'd imagine the grill would stop most larger objects. Maybe I'll make a quick disconnect for inclement weather that move the snorkel behind the support. Thanks! |
Author: | Dart270 [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:15 am ] |
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I did exactly what you describe on my 64 Dart and went to a 4" dryer hose. No problems with stop and go, or with rain/weather, as I recall. Not sure it helped anything either... Lou |
Author: | armyofchuckness [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:07 am ] |
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Thanks, Lou. I figure it can't hurt, the way I'm planning to do it, it should look pretty cool as well. Offy 90 degree carb adapter, aluminum tubing, and a polished, in-line barrel filter. |
Author: | Dart270 [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:55 am ] |
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Hi Chuck, Cool! Yeah, please send me an inline barrel filter link, if you can. I should do it this way on my car. Went to a cone filter on a 90 and gooseneck, but it is too big to fit in front of the rad support. Ciao, Lou |
Author: | armyofchuckness [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:00 pm ] |
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Sure, Lou. Here's my plan: Mount one of these on the front and back of the core support for a clean mounting point and aesthetically pleasing opening on the front of the support. (and a way to hide the bug screen mount) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M1 ... _pC_nS_ttl Then use one of these two options as a filter (I guess "barrel" is the wrong description for what these are. I was thinking of just the housings): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005N6 ... o_pd_S_ttl http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0035G ... _o_pC_S_tt The rest will be cut aluminum tubing with some black rubber couplers to give a clean look. It's way fancier than it needs to be, but I've been sitting on this idea for five years, so I might as well spend the $$$ and do it the way I envisioned.[/url] |
Author: | Dart270 [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:42 pm ] |
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Thanks a bunch, Chuck! Those look perfect for what I have under the hood too. I have been scratching my head about this for a while too, and I think one of those will the fit the bill. I think the larger box might be what Bob Dally has on the Bonneville Barracuda... I might drill a hole in the bottom of the barrel housing on the air inlet side to let any water drain out as it comes in, if for example, rain is really bad and some comes in the inlet. Best, Lou |
Author: | armyofchuckness [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:09 pm ] |
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Glad I could help, Lou! I can't really speak to the quality of these products other than the reviews on Amazon, but they seem like a clean way to get the job done. That's a good idea on the drain hole. I'll be sure to put one in. Thanks again for the advice! |
Author: | jcc [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Intake routing |
It seems to me if moving the battery and cutting a hole in the rad support is already OK, a better solution IMO would be to simply connect to the windshield cowl grille area, its closer, and no radiant engine heat is heating up the cool air you are trying to access with long plumbing, and its a proven high pressure area, and you take nothing away from the existing radiator, and besides, Nascar does it LOL. |
Author: | SlantSixDan [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:36 pm ] |
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Careful you don't outsmart yourself. See here and here (and because the subject of K&N's fraudulent air "filters" usually comes up in relation to this topic, see also here and here.) |
Author: | armyofchuckness [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:55 pm ] |
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Thanks, Dan. I was hoping you'd chime in on this. I had a feeling you'd have some data handy. I will be running an Eddy 500CFM carb, so that's why I was thinking I may need some extra airflow, but I'll look into it a little further before I make it happen. Thanks again! Also, cowl induction sounds like a cool idea. Has anyone done that on a Slant? |
Author: | Old6rodder [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Intake routing |
Quote: It seems to me if moving the battery and cutting a hole in the rad support is already OK, a better solution IMO would be to simply connect to the windshield cowl grille area, its closer, and no radiant engine heat is heating up the cool air you are trying to access with long plumbing, and its a proven high pressure area, and you take nothing away from the existing radiator, and besides, Nascar does it LOL.
Have done this on a my Toad. Your cowl's a bit different, but could be done.As I have my windows open unless it's raining, I have no problem with the light gas vapor that comes back through the system when parked with vent flaps open on a hot day. He might, depending on his tastes and habits. |
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