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Author:  Oppie5150 [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Timing and air fuel adjustment
Ok so I have spent the latest week trying to get my car to go down the freeway with out over heating it has a whole new cooling system and systems been flushed has stock fan and it is located about an inch off of radiator I checked initial timing I have 9 degrees would like to know what the total timing should be and when it should kick in and how to adjust the carb I'm in sc and it's 75 degrees out and it wants to over heat just going threw town should I get a bigger radiator or a flex fan please help this is my only form of transportation and it's letting me down and I don't have much experience with an issue like this
Author:  Reed [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:53 am ]
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Any board members in SC that could give this guy a hand? It is hard to diagnose problems like this over the internet.
Author:  Dart270 [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:00 am ]
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Did you make sure the thermostat is not stuck? You could try running with no thermostat and see if that helps, at least as a test. New parts do not necessarily mean they are working parts.

It is possible your timing is way off if the damper ring has slipped. How does it run? Is it responsive or does it idle rough? What carb do you have and what is its history?

Hopefully we can help, but we will need more info.

Lou
Author:  Oppie5150 [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:39 pm ]
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The thermastat is in good working order and opens

The car runs great fires right up idles smooth it does have a random miss

I guess it could be possible the damper has slipped
Author:  Sam Powell [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:48 pm ]
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Are you relying on the stock gauge to tell you it is overheating? That is only slightly better than guessing.

Sam
Author:  Oppie5150 [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:14 pm ]
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I am relying on stock gauge I have been debating on adding a aftermarket and a nes sending unit but I don't want to make an air pocket any on how to set up dual sensors
Author:  Sam Powell [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:09 am ]
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You can put a second sending unit in the block drain plug hole as I did, and hang a real gauge under the dash in a cheap bezel. My dash sending unit is fed by the low block unit, and the EFI ECU water temp is sent by the one in the head. During warm up there is considerable difference. The head can reach 160 before the block makes 100.

Sam
Author:  wjajr [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:15 am ]
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Before spending any more dough on parts, make sure there is an over heating condition. Get one of these. These things are handy for checking manifold temperature and around the kitchen as well for checking frying pan readiness.

Another thing to consider, if gage sensor is not making good contact with head electrically in other words, connection has high resistance, gage will not read true. Remove sensor, clean threads, don't use any pipe dope or Teflon tape when reinstalling.

The second location for high resistance build up is at the bulkhead connector.

Right off hand I can't say if additional resistance in temperature gage circuit will cause higher or lower reading from actual.
Author:  Oppie5150 [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:43 pm ]
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Random off topic question do any of you know what other dodge or plymouth has the same body that I could get panels for trying to fix a bunch of rust and they don't make the panels I need for my car 72 plymouth valiant 4 door
Author:  Nicademas [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:09 pm ]
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I would do what wjajr said and make sure it is a cooling problem. Make sure to check everywhere (radiatior, hoses, thramstat houseing, head, block,...) My truck was acting like it was over heating. Turns out the valves needed adjusted. Only the head was getting warm and since thats where the sensor was it picked it up.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timing and air fuel adjustment
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Ok so I have spent the latest week trying to get my car to go down the freeway with out over heating it has a whole new cooling system and systems been flushed has stock fan and it is located about an inch off of radiator I checked initial timing I have 9 degrees would like to know what the total timing should be and when it should kick in and how to adjust the carb I'm in sc and it's 75 degrees out and it wants to over heat just going threw town should I get a bigger radiator or a flex fan please help this is my only form of transportation and it's letting me down and I don't have much experience with an issue like this
There is a key in the lower right corner of your keyboard that has a . and a > on it. That . is called a "period". It goes at the end of each sentence.
Author:  Jsp [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timing and air fuel adjustment
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Ok so I have spent the latest week trying to get my car to go down the freeway with out over heating it has a whole new cooling system and systems been flushed has stock fan and it is located about an inch off of radiator I checked initial timing I have 9 degrees would like to know what the total timing should be and when it should kick in and how to adjust the carb I'm in sc and it's 75 degrees out and it wants to over heat just going threw town should I get a bigger radiator or a flex fan please help this is my only form of transportation and it's letting me down and I don't have much experience with an issue like this
There is a key in the lower right corner of your keyboard that has a . and a > on it. That . is called a "period". It goes at the end of each sentence.

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Author:  Oppie5150 [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:27 pm ]
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I call it a thought sentence and could care less if it has a period
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:55 pm ]
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I call it a thought sentence and could care less if it has a period
No, evidently you couldn't care any less.

Look, it takes less effort to write with at least a 4th-grader's grasp of punctuation than it does to come up with nonexistent things like a "thought sentence". Some people will slog through your word-salad, and perhaps you'll get the info you need. But the more effort you put into asking your questions, the more people will help you. You get back what you put in. There are probably enough people on here who don't want to be bothered trying to decipher your punctuation-free stream-of-consciousness ramble that you're probably missing out on helpful information. My own reaction is along that line: if someone can't be bothered to use periods and commas, I guess I can't be bothered to help them.
Author:  Oppie5150 [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:03 pm ]
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That is understandable, I'll work on making it easier to read.
So at this time I finally got my wheel bearing fixed and now I can hear the engine.
Slantsixdan you had told me that the lifters are solid and need adjusting, on my drive home I heard them ticking at just above idle.
A previous comment stated his valves were sloppy causing the head to read hot but not the engine as a whole, my question is would the valve lash have that dig of an impact on the overall temperature read out, and yes I'm. Still stuck on using the stock gauge until payday
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