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Author:  1930 [ Thu May 05, 2016 4:40 am ]
Post subject:  Carb question
Looking thru my old posts I can not see where I have asked this question: Is there a modern day equivalent 2 barrel carb that would be a direct replacement to the Carter BBD.

300 dollars to send carb out and have the old BBD rebuilt not including shipping, hard to believe that Holley or someone does not make something new ( not rebuilt or remanufactured ) thats not a direct bolt onto my super six manifold.
Id much rather have a new carb that I can get parts for easily in the future or replace again easily in the future if a problem arises.

Worst case scenario maybe an adapter plate would be needed?

Thanks for any help
Author:  Wesola78 [ Thu May 05, 2016 4:52 am ]
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Some slanters, like myself, are using Weber 2bbl carbs.
A Weber carb is not a direct bolt on, but with some modifications they can work well.
Author:  Joshie225 [ Thu May 05, 2016 8:32 am ]
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These cars and trucks are so old...

How old are they?

They're so old they only exist at the fringe of the hobby.

And the market is so small...

How small is it?

The market is so small that even the Chinese can't see it. Actually, I only wish that were true. You can buy a Chinese knock off of the Carter BBD, but you'd likely regret it.

The carb you want is the Holley 2280, but it hasn't been produced in years. You need a time machine to get what you want. Otherwise you improvise!
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Thu May 05, 2016 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carb question
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Looking thru my old posts I can not see where I have asked this question: Is there a modern day equivalent 2 barrel carb that would be a direct replacement to the Carter BBD.
Sure, you can buy a brand-new Chinese knockoff of a BBD. It's not a good carburetor, and from what I've seen it's not a safe one either. But it does suit what you asked for.
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300 dollars to send carb out and have the old BBD rebuilt not including shipping, hard to believe
No, it isn't. Skilled and talented craftsmanship costs money. Pay it and be glad you can still get it!
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that Holley or someone does not make something new
They did, the Holley 2280, back when there was money to be made selling new carburetors for these cars. That's been many years ago.
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Id much rather have a new carb that I can get parts for easily in the future
There is no parts availability issue with the BBD.
Author:  lincparts [ Thu May 05, 2016 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  motorcraft 2150
I run a motorcraft 2150 on my mild slant build and it pulls harder than the BBD did by a large margin. Need to use provided aluminum adapter and a cable kickdown but it works well, is easy to tune, uses common jets , and has 1.08 venturi's. Carb builder will set it up for your particular application and has an exellent reputation. I have no connection to the ebay seller however i'd purchase again from him. search bbd upgrade on ebay.
Author:  1930 [ Thu May 05, 2016 5:16 pm ]
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Quote:
Some slanters, like myself, are using Weber 2bbl carbs.
A Weber carb is not a direct bolt on, but with some modifications they can work well.
Thanks but I think Ill stay clear of this
Author:  1930 [ Thu May 05, 2016 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carb question
Quote:
Quote:
Looking thru my old posts I can not see where I have asked this question: Is there a modern day equivalent 2 barrel carb that would be a direct replacement to the Carter BBD.
Sure, you can buy a brand-new Chinese knockoff of a BBD. It's not a good carburetor, and from what I've seen it's not a safe one either. But it does suit what you asked for.
Quote:
300 dollars to send carb out and have the old BBD rebuilt not including shipping, hard to believe
No, it isn't. Skilled and talented craftsmanship costs money. Pay it and be glad you can still get it!
Quote:
that Holley or someone does not make something new
They did, the Holley 2280, back when there was money to be made selling new carburetors for these cars. That's been many years ago.
Quote:
Id much rather have a new carb that I can get parts for easily in the future
There is no parts availability issue with the BBD.
Quote : No, it isn't. Skilled and talented craftsmanship costs money. Pay it and be glad you can still get it!

You are absolutely correct and what I typed and what I meant to come across were two different things.

What I should have mentioned was that I was having a hard time finding someone ( a professional ) that seemed the least bit enthusiastic about rebuilding my BBD for the slant six and I find this frustrating and uncalled for.
Author:  1930 [ Thu May 05, 2016 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: motorcraft 2150
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I run a motorcraft 2150 on my mild slant build and it pulls harder than the BBD did by a large margin. Need to use provided aluminum adapter and a cable kickdown but it works well, is easy to tune, uses common jets , and has 1.08 venturi's. Carb builder will set it up for your particular application and has an exellent reputation. I have no connection to the ebay seller however i'd purchase again from him. search bbd upgrade on ebay.
I did check it out but decided to go with what I posted below, check it out and comment if you can
Author:  1930 [ Thu May 05, 2016 5:23 pm ]
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I went ahead and purchased this, http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-HOLLEY-2-BA ... Aa&vxp=mtr
can someone tell me now where Ive gone wrong, surely my original super six linkages will not work, or maybe Ill still need some adapter plate made from unobtanium or maybe someone will tell me that chances are assuming the seller is telling the truth and it is brand new it is still so Fn. old that the gaskets and shiz are prob. all worn out and it will still have to be rebuilt anyway or maybe ...........

Or maybe someone will tell me that for once I rolled the dice and maybe paid a little too much for something that will work and prob. work very well for my 225 slant powered truck :)

I hope I made the right choice, just going by Dans comment ( its all your fault BTW :) ) I did try and research online but didnt find a whole lot specific to the 2280 that would tell me if this specific carb. would work on my slant.

BTW I have a manual trans so no kickdown linkage to contend with

Ok let me have it, tell me what an idiot I am :)
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Thu May 05, 2016 6:27 pm ]
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You didn't go too far astray. It's a 318 carb, which means there'll be some hassle hooking up the choke pushrod; you'd best buy a № 1232 Electric choke kit and make a new pushrod for it out of brass rod stock from the hardware store. Other than that, it's 1:1 install and hookup.
Author:  1930 [ Thu May 05, 2016 11:43 pm ]
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Quote:
You didn't go too far astray. It's a 318 carb, which means there'll be some hassle hooking up the choke pushrod; you'd best buy a № 1232 Electric choke kit and make a new pushrod for it out of brass rod stock from the hardware store. Other than that, it's 1:1 install and hookup.
Great, thanks
Author:  1930 [ Fri May 06, 2016 4:36 am ]
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Can someone tell me how that Dan was able to identify this as a 318 carb http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-HOLLEY-2-BA ... Aa&vxp=mtr

What features or how does it differ from the slant six version...maybe Dan was just going by the listing title and there are no physical characteristics between the slant and 318 version.
Id like to know for future reference.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sat May 07, 2016 3:20 pm ]
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Choke lever tucks in close to the carb body. On the \6 carbs it extends further outboard.
Author:  1930 [ Sat May 07, 2016 3:33 pm ]
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Choke lever tucks in close to the carb body. On the \6 carbs it extends further outboard.
Thats It? Ok I did read that already, I assumed there were other differences. Thanks for the clarification.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sat May 07, 2016 3:52 pm ]
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Well, yeah, there are calibration differences, too, but that works to your benefit. The late '70s and early '80s were "strangulation" years in terms of carburetor calibration, so a 318 carb from that timeframe should be well calibrated to make a 225 run well without need of jetting changes unless you're at high altitude.
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