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Author:  ChazRam [ Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Trying to get some ides for my slant.
This is the car and the motor.
At the present time all I have is a Offy Dual Carb manifold and a nice powder coated early valve cover and a spare motor. I want to put the new motor in over the off season but want more pep without losing the reliability. What I was thinking was to get a couple of nice Holley 1 Barrel carbs, make up some linkage and get a Lokar Kickdown cable, A set of Clifford Hedders, a Pertronix kit, and throw all of it together and put the motor in the car. Im looking for more show than go and reliability with a little extra pep from the motor and a little more bling under the hood running a different setup than most others. All of this without doing internal engine work. Am I going the right way with this idea. If so what would be the best carbs to use and has anybody crafted a linkage setup that I can copy on my car? I guess putting an ad on this site would net me some stuff for this? Thanks in advence for the help.
Chas.
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Author:  slantzilla [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:14 am ]
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The key will be finding a decent pair of carbs that aren't total crappola Chaz. The rest of it will be fairly simple bolt together stuff. I can help you fab up linkage if you need anything. :D
Author:  Badvert65 [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:53 am ]
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If you want to dress things up, chrome accessories for the slant six are somewhat limited. That just means you have to get creative. Lots of cleaning, painting, and polishing.
The key will be making it reliable and fun to drive, that will make the dress up part more rewarding.
Best single thing to do to the engine would be to bump the compression up to the 9:1 area. You will need to measure what you have first and then get the head shaved. More compression makes a world of difference.
Author:  barnett468 [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:28 pm ]
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installing numerically higher gear ratio will increase the acceleration rate more than anything else other than a stroker kit., but as mentioned, if your compression is "low", increasing it will help some.
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:38 pm ]
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stroker kit., .
This is the second post, in which you have mentioned a stroker kit. Please elaborate. Where can one be obtained?
Author:  DusterIdiot [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Yes...People wpould like to know...
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This is the second post, in which you have mentioned a stroker kit. Please elaborate. Where can one be obtained?
I would too... please elaborate... :?:
Author:  barnett468 [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:09 pm ]
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stroker kit., .
This is the second post, in which you have mentioned a stroker kit. Please elaborate. Where can one be obtained?
you make . there are a few different ways to do that . below is some info from this site.

http://www.slantsix.org/articles/stroking/stroking.htm
Author:  Joshie225 [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:18 pm ]
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That's not stroking. The 198 is a de-stroked 225. Going back to a 225 gets you no where from using a 225 in the first place. There is no crankshaft with a longer stroke than the 4.125" of the 225 available for purchase. There is no stroker kit like you find with popular engines. Every slant in the modern era with a longer than stock stroke has been a one-off custom build.
Author:  barnett468 [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:00 pm ]
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That's not stroking. The 198 is a de-stroked 225. Going back to a 225 gets you no where from using a 225 in the first place. There is no crankshaft with a longer stroke than the 4.125" of the 225 available for purchase. There is no stroker kit like you find with popular engines. Every slant in the modern era with a longer than stock stroke has been a one-off custom build.
FYI - Increasing the stroke of any engine is called "stroking", and it is irrelevant how this is achieved . I am well aware there are no dedicated "kits" to do this with since I have "stroked" slant 6's before, however, just because there is no "kit", it does not mean that it can't be done or that it is even difficult to do . In fact, it is incredibly easy for someone to do if one has basic engine building knowledge and the necessary machine shops near them . If they don't have this knowledge, all they need to know is where an engine shop is and have a way to get the parts down there and of course the money to pay for it . That hardly seems very complicated or difficult to me.

I also didn't suggest to stroke a 225 to a 225 as you are implying I did since that obviously makes no sense and would be a stupid thing to say, and if you actually read the article I posted the link to instead of simply attacking me without cause, you might just see that a bigger displacement can be achieved in a 225 in a couple different ways.

Have a nice 4th of July.
Author:  sandy in BC [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:18 pm ]
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Id like to hear more about the slants you stroked....the methods you used and the amount of stroke achieved...and the resulting comression ratio. Lets see some math.

....I mean if its just that easy....
Author:  slantzilla [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:24 pm ]
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My crystal ball sees a lock in the future............😂
Author:  barnett468 [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:46 pm ]
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Id like to hear more about the slants you stroked....the methods you used and the amount of stroke achieved...and the resulting comression ratio. Lets see some math.

....I mean if its just that easy....
I would suggest that you start by reading the excellent article by Doug Dutra that I posted the link to . This has a lot of very good info in it and gives people that are new to stroking an engine a good general background in it.

I was stroking some V8's before they came out with kits that you could buy, however, those couldn't be stroked as far as they can with the Chinese kits that are available because they were often limited to using the orig crank and welding it then offset grinding it.

If you want to stroke an engine there is no kit for and there is no one in your area that can do the crank, you can simply ship it out to a number of shops throughout the US to get the work done.

Fortunately for me, there are a few within 20 miles of where I live and both are very good.

Hope you have a safe and happy 4th.
Author:  slantzilla [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:12 pm ]
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Stroking is not that great on a Slant because of the small bore and crap head. There have been a few built, but none of them have exactly set the world on fire.

Lou had one that another member built using a collection of mismatched parts. It ran well. It would be interesting to see it with either a street or race build instead of a mix of the two.

I believe people's disdain with you is over your claim of a stroker "kit". There are very few "kits" of any kind for a Slant.
Author:  barnett468 [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:36 pm ]
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Stroking is not that great on a Slant because of the small bore and crap head. There have been a few built, but none of them have exactly set the world on fire.

Lou had one that another member built using a collection of mismatched parts. It ran well. It would be interesting to see it with either a street or race build instead of a mix of the two.

I believe people's disdain with you is over your claim of a stroker "kit". There are very few "kits" of any kind for a Slant.
Thanks for your comments;

I do realize a stroked 6 won't be a real tire burner and that it also requires a bit of head work along with it to get the most benefit from the additional cubes, however, I am one whom is not always concerned about the cost of something and neither have many of my customers been, therefore, the cost of porting a head to go along with a stroked engine is irrelevant to some people.

There is also a courteous and respectful way to address people even if one disagrees with what another says, but that is obviously not the approach some have taken here, and all this will do is cause members they do this to, to go to a friendlier forum which seems to me to be counterproductive to the growth and knowledge base of a forum, however, unfortunately, I have seen where some forums/modeators don't care about these things because they have become friends with some of the longer term members and refuse to address them when they do these things to others because they don't want to damage their friendship . As for me, I don't have any friends that treat others this way nor would I care to.

Hope you have a safe and happy 4th.

Regards;

Mike

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Author:  sandy in BC [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:00 pm ]
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.....so lets hear some math on the slants you stroked.

Im aware of Dougs threads on stroking. I am interested in the slants you stroked....without kits.

Its not that this is an unfriendly online community...its just that you have made some claims and some of us would like you to share your obvious expertise.

Did you weld? How much stroke? What was the final CR? What cam did you use?
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