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Author:  Old6rodder [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Ball & Trunnion joint question.
Howdy,

Next week I'm going to (In Oz slang) "have a fang at" what I suspect's a B&T joint vibration in El Toad.
In my attempts to find reference materials beyond the factory manual I noticed plenty of parts available for the larger cars of the period. Is the /6 version the same size/part no's as those, or is it different to the point that they won't help me?

Think I'll also post this up in the Social area.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
Not worth paying the money and doing the digging to try to find repair parts for the B&T front U-joint. Much better to do like this.
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
I have one of those flanged spicer slip joints shafts from denny's driveshaft in the 64 dart that I bought.

Ran it @ 80 on the highway with 3.23's. ... no vibes from it.


Good stuff and bolts right to your ball and trunion flange on the back of the trans.

Greg
Author:  Old6rodder [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
Actually, I have three slip joint gearboxes, and a Spicer & slip joint driveshaft, waiting on the shelf for an eventual complete conversion (Yes, I plan to have the car for rather a while). However, I also have another B&T gearbox (and another B&T driveshaft) as well, and as I'm quite a cheap SOB I'd like to get my mileage out of the two early boxes first. :lol:

Then, there's also the pleasure of actually fixing a problem rather than simply throwing newer parts at it, pretty much what I enjoy about this hobby. Just rebuilt a vac brake booster for my '93 D250 rather than convert to an aftermarket hydro booster.

So, are the two components different enough to preclude using their respective parts together?
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
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Actually, I have another B&T gearbox (and another B&T driveshaft) as well, and as I'm quite a cheap SOB I'd like to get my mileage out of the two early boxes first.
You've missed the point. The linked article is a show-and-tell of how to upgrade away from the B&T front U-joint while keeping the B&T transmission.
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Then, there's also the pleasure of actually fixing a problem rather than simply throwing newer parts at it
If your definition of "fixing a problem" is narrow enough to require that only original-type parts be used…okeh, then! Spend more money and more effort to wind up with a result that will require more maintenance than if you spend less money and less effort. It's your car and your choice. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Author:  Old6rodder [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
Howdy, Dan. Hope you had a Happy Canada Day.

No sweat, under stood the point. Prefer/intend to learn what I can about the B&T in the process of repairing one, if I can. I enjoy the learning aspect of my hobbies. Will move on to full Spicer & slip joint set up if I fail, as I have the parts.

Consensus appears to be that they're two different sizes. So, in lieu of hard info I'll go forward with a repair attempt with parts on hand. Wish me luck? :D
Author:  Rob Simmons [ Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:06 am ]
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Disregard my PM.... :lol:
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
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Howdy, Dan. Hope you had a Happy Canada Day.
I spent it very grateful to be a Canadian in Canada, thanks!
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Consensus appears to be that they're two different sizes. So, in lieu of hard info
Here y'go. Part numbers Q-102 and Q-112, listed as '60-'62 Valiant/Lancer, are applicable to A-bodies through '65 (vendor cattledog stops at '62). If you need a new housing, expect to pay big bucks.
Author:  Old6rodder [ Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
And separate numbers for the larger cars, as suspected. Excellent, Sir, Thank You once again.
I've even learned enough to snag the site link for future use. Who says an old dog can't (slowly) learn (semi) new tricks?
Hell, my wife even finally browbeat me into a pocket phone a couple months ago. :roll:
Author:  Dart270 [ Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
If you need any core driveshafts, I have several of them, maybe even one in the right length (need a measurement).

Lou
Author:  Old6rodder [ Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ball & Trunnion joint question.
Thank You, Gentlemen, I'm good on parts, and Dan's link verified the answer to my question.
So, now "fully armed" :roll: , I'll blithely dive into the exercise. :wink:
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