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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:39 am ] |
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Working on my truck. I'm planning on installing an old school "driving" computer. Without going into a lot of detail about the unit, I need some help. In wiring up the unit, I need constant batt power, and ign switched battery power. The constant power is for "keep alive" memory. I would like to add a backup keep alive power source, in case of a dead battery or needing to disconnect the battery while doing other work on the truck. I'm thinking of a rechargeable battery connected to the truck battery positive with a diode in the wire. That way if I lose truck power the backup battery will power the computer, but the diode will prevent discharging the backup battery, and will allow charging the backup battery. My question is: What kind/size battery can be used for backup (min 10 volts- max 12 volts nominal)? What size/type diode would be best? |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: electrical/electronic gurus |
Ordinary AGM security system/server backup battery like this, but you'll need to figure out a way to comply with its max charging current limit. |
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| Author: | Rick Covalt [ Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:42 pm ] |
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Charlie I am the last person to give electrical advise but here goes! When I had an inverter mounted in my company truck, it was set up to do exactly what you said. I had 2 large batteries mounted in the back to run my 110V inverter and they were charged off the vans alternator. But there was an isolator mounted between the trucks battery/charging system and the inverter batteries. I think the isolator came from the local RV shop. So they should be available most anywhere. |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:43 pm ] |
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I don't think I need that much AH. I only need to power the Keep alive memory, in case of a short term main battery issue. I haven't checked the amount of currant draw, yet. I was thinking something like a rechargeable battery from an existing piece of electronic gear. But I don't know what is available. This is similar to what I am going to power. https://www.ebay.com/itm/395078725110?_ ... %3A4429486 |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:47 pm ] |
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Quote: Charlie I am the last person to give electrical advise but here goes! When I had an inverter mounted in my company truck, it was set up to do exactly what you said. I had 2 large batteries mounted in the back to run my 110V inverter and they were charged off the vans alternator. But there was an isolator mounted between the trucks battery/charging system and the inverter batteries. I think the isolator came from the local RV shop. So they should be available most anywhere.
I don't need any think that "heavy". I'm guessing the current drain from the keep alive memory, is just milliamps. I have to wire it up first then I can check the actual current usage.
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| Author: | Rick Covalt [ Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:53 pm ] |
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I knew I would be no help!
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:18 pm ] |
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Quote: I don't need any think that "heavy". I'm guessing the current drain from the keep alive memory, is just milliamps. I have to wire it up first then I can check the actual current usage. Oh! That's all? One of these might do the job fine. Takes a regular 9-volt battery.
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:44 pm ] |
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Think I have this figured out. The "keep alive" circuit will be powered by this aux battery (don't need this large but is the smallest SLA i can find) https://batterysharks.com/12-volt-5-5-a ... ttery.html The positive of this battery will be connected to the vehicle battery through a 1N5404 power diode (400 volt@3 amps). The negative to ground. That will allow the vehicle to keep the aux battery charged, but the diode will prevent the aux battery from discharging through the vehicle electrical system. easy/peasy simple and inexpensive. Bought the diode today, 50 cents, and ordered the battery. PS: I was told by several sources, that I really should use the lead acid type battery, as other types don't play well with automotive charging systems. PPS: Dan, your first battery suggestion was correct. But I am using one as small as I could find |
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| Author: | MadScientistMatt [ Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:40 pm ] |
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That should work great! Make sure the diode is rated for enough current. |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:49 pm ] |
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Quote: That should work great! Make sure the diode is rated for enough current.
The diode is rated for 3 amps, but I got a "2" pack, If necessary, I can put two in parallel. But I don't think the battery can handle that charge rate.I just wish the weather would warm up so I can install the new windshield. Then I can go to work installing this driving computer and backup battery system. |
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| Author: | MadScientistMatt [ Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:09 am ] |
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3 amps is probably plenty. |
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| Author: | volaredon [ Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:50 am ] |
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You can warm up quick... Come to the Midwest and go back... Florida conditions will seem better to ya..... |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:58 am ] |
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It's not that cold that I can't work. The problem is the metal gets cold overnight, and makes it hard to get the urethane sealer to flow properly (I'm told you should heat the urethane to about 140 degrees while still in the tube). Plus the rubber gasket is harder to work with. |
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| Author: | Rick Covalt [ Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:38 am ] |
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When I had my new windshield installed about 7 or 8 years ago, the guy said he was not going to install any sealer. I thought he was crazy but he promised to fix it if it leaked! As soon as the truck was back on the road I took it to the car wash and ran it through. It was perfectly dry then and hasn't leaked since. Go figure! |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:15 pm ] |
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I have never installed a windshield, so just going by this video. Made by the same people as my gasket. I did have a lot of rust at the top around the drip rail (above and below). Now repaired, but want to make sure no leaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4uqkEak-Qg&t=721s |
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