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| Author: | thomasmorton21 [ Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Industrial 225 block |
Researching my Industrial 225 block. Metric head bolts, double cam gears, "5R203506" on right side of block just under #6 cyl, "2806830-8" on block behind exhaust manifold and to the right of that and up a little "32941" BH. Looks like red is original paint "Chrysler Industrial" on valve cover. Also, the fan was attached a little higher to an odd looking thermostat/pully, most likely a forklift from Canada? My son has photos on his phone but they didn't come thru to my PC so I'll work on that. Any help will be appreciate. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
2806830: RG (198 or 225 depending on crank and rods), '68-'75ish. Same as passenger car/truck/van: forged-steel crankshaft, solid lifters. -8: Casting pattern ID number BH: Engineering change ID number 5R: Suggests engine built to standard specifications in 1975 203506: Probably engine-build serial number 32941: Unknown. On blocks cast at Huber (ID'd by "AAWJ" on the manifold side of the block), that location has a 4-digit number which is the casting date. This could be an encoded production date or ??? Metric head bolts: are you real-real sure? Never from the factory. Maybe someone went to great and strange effort to drill and tap every head bolt hole in the block, but it seems unlikely. |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
Quote: Metric head bolts: are you real-real sure? Never from the factory. Maybe someone went to great and strange effort to drill and tap every head bolt hole in the block, but it seems unlikely. |
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| Author: | volaredon [ Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
Quote: Quote: Metric head bolts: are you real-real sure? Never from the factory. Maybe someone went to great and strange effort to drill and tap every head bolt hole in the block, but it seems unlikely. The bracket bolts that hold them to the engine would still be SAE Who knows .. there are some size metrics that fit SAE the same as the SAE tools would... 5/16=8mm, 7/16=11mm, 5/8=16mm, 3/4"=19mm, etc maybe he did use metric tools to undo some of it? |
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| Author: | GTS225 [ Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
Quote:
Who knows .. there are some size metrics that fit SAE the same as the SAE tools would... 5/16=8mm, 7/16=11mm, 5/8=16mm, 3/4"=19mm, etc maybe he did use metric tools to undo some of it?
While this is true as stated, the thread pitch(es) are still not compatible. I suspect your guess is right.....metric tools were used to remove American thread bolts.Roger |
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| Author: | volaredon [ Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
Yeah. Only referring to wrench head sizes not actual bolt shank diameter or thread pitch size. Most younger people don't even seem to know anything existed besides metric crap.i was just fine working with SAE based stuff, metric does nothing for me besides piss me off. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
Quote: Most younger people don't even seem to know anything existed besides metric crap Saying the system of units and measurements used by »checks notes« the entire freakin' world except for the U.S., Liberia, and "Myanmar" (Burma) is "crap" is……a bit of a stretch. |
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| Author: | thomasmorton21 [ Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
I'm an old man, (Viet Nam Vet) I discovered I'm missing my 11/16" and some screws upstairs. The 17mm is the only one that fit. How you kids say it now? (my bad) Just wondering; is this an industrial block and is it a better candidate for a build? I read someplace it may have more nickel in the casting. Also, it may have had a steel shot pinned crank before the last build at Rettig Bros Machine Shops in Modesto, CA. Looks like a regular crank kit now. My Son has photos but I haven't been able to get them from him. I'll work on that. Thomas |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
Quote:
is this an industrial block There's nothing such as a Slant-6 block made specifically for industrial applications. It is the same block and internal components as the passenger car engine.Quote: is it a better candidate for a build? Not necessarily because it was originally used in an industrial application, no. Quote: I read someplace it may have more nickel in the casting. That is not the case. The nickel content of Chrysler's block iron was increased (for all engines) starting in '63. Industrial motors did not get special high-nickel blocks. Quote: Also, it may have had a steel shot pinned crank The heaviest-duty truck engines got shot-peened crankshafts. The industrial engines did not. Remember, industrial service is often quite a bit easier on an engine than car/truck/van service. If you want to have the crank shot-peened, you certainly can, but there's not much point unless you are building a motor for extreme heavy-duty usage, or just want to be able to say you have a shot-peened crank. |
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| Author: | volaredon [ Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Industrial 225 block |
Quote: Quote: Most younger people don't even seem to know anything existed besides metric crap Saying the system of units and measurements used by »checks notes« the entire freakin' world except for the U.S., Liberia, and "Myanmar" (Burma) is "crap" is……a bit of a stretch. |
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