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Author:  madmax/6 [ Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  axel seals 62 valiant
Does anyone have a part number for the CORRECT axle seals for a 62 valiant,,,orig 7 1/4 rear end.
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axel seals 62 valiant
Does Rockauto List incorrect ones?


I believe there are 2 versions of this seal. The later ones may be used with the large bolt pattern 7 1/4 on the fjm cars for example.

I bet Dan or Charrlie can help.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axel seals 62 valiant
'60-'62: one size of axle bearing and seal in the 7-1/4" rear axle
'63-up: another size.

Original P/N for the '60-'62 seal is 2070 130. That crosses to National 51256. I'm finding a lot of hits on both those numbers with a web search, and with an eBay search.


I am not at all shocked if the ashes of what used to be the auto parts sector lists the '63-up parts for Valiants and Darts clear back to 1954, or just lists completely inapplicable parts for all Valiants and Darts from 1937 through 1991. :roll:
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Thu Oct 23, 2025 3:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: axel seals 62 valiant
Thank you Dan.

That listed seal is not in the RockAuto Listing for the '62 Valiant.

There are 2 seals listed - one for Sure Grip and one without?

I would not have imagined that the sure-grip option would have affected the Axle seal ID or Bore Ø.

National 51256 is possibly just available as NOS - I cannont seem to find "new" versions of the seal.

But as Dan says they are out there to buy.
Author:  madmax/6 [ Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: axel seals 62 valiant
Thank you,,,last time I went through this I ordered what was listed as correct and got the bigger incorrect parts.Trying to not go through this again.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Thu Oct 23, 2025 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: axel seals 62 valiant
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That listed seal is not in the RockAuto Listing for the '62 Valiant.
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last time I went through this I ordered what was listed as correct and got the bigger incorrect parts
I am shocked. Shocked, I am. Just try to imagine all of my considerable shock and surprise.
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]There are 2 seals listed - one for Sure Grip and one without?
…which is a neat trick, given that Sure Grip was not available on that car.
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I would not have imagined that the sure-grip option would have affected the Axle seal ID or Bore Ø
Quite correct, on cars that could actually have come with Sure-Grip, such as the '64-up A-bodies. So yeah, as I was saying about what remains of the auto parts sector.
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National 51256 is possibly just available as NOS - I cannont seem to find "new" versions of the seal.
Here y'go, nice fresh brand-new seals. The price equates to $22.14/pair in US Dollars, but that's before postage and tariffs. Still, it might be worth it to eliminate the uncertainty of whether 50-60-year-old seals will still seal. And you'd probably be able to get a number off the new ones to buy them more locally next time. On the other-other hand, you might discover that they are a fine product of some joker in a dirt-floor Guangdong basement, thus differently iffy than the old-stock seals, but equally so
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: axel seals 62 valiant
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That listed seal is not in the RockAuto Listing for the '62 Valiant.
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last time I went through this I ordered what was listed as correct and got the bigger incorrect parts
I am shocked. Shocked, I am. Just try to imagine all of my considerable shock and surprise.
Quote:
]There are 2 seals listed - one for Sure Grip and one without?
…which is a neat trick, given that Sure Grip was not available on that car.
Quote:
I would not have imagined that the sure-grip option would have affected the Axle seal ID or Bore Ø
Quite correct, on cars that could actually have come with Sure-Grip, such as the '64-up A-bodies. So yeah, as I was saying about what remains of the auto parts sector.
Quote:
National 51256 is possibly just available as NOS - I cannont seem to find "new" versions of the seal.
Here y'go, nice fresh brand-new seals. The price equates to $22.14/pair in US Dollars, but that's before postage and tariffs. Still, it might be worth it to eliminate the uncertainty of whether 50-60-year-old seals will still seal. And you'd probably be able to get a number off the new ones to buy them more locally next time. On the other-other hand, you might discover that they are a fine product of some joker in a dirt-floor Guangdong basement, thus differently iffy than the old-stock seals, but equally so

Thanks, Dan!
I suppose there is no Timken equivalent cross-reference to the national seal number.

I also was unaware that the Sure guip was not available in a 7 1/4" axle until 1964. But it does confirm my observation of one in a 1964 Dart that Dad has had rotting away in the back of the shop since 1990 or so.

Greg
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