As you know I am switching back over to my 4 speed in my 65 Valiant. I won't need the starter relay for the automatic that only starts
in neutral and park. Am I correct that I can just use the automatic relay if I run the black wire, that leaves the relay and goes to the transmission, to a ground? Just double checking! Thanks

_________________
2 Mopars come with Spark plug tubes. One is a world class, racing machine. The other is a 426 CI. boat anchor!

12.70 @ 104.6

That wire should be brown, but yes, that's the one you should ground.

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Okay Dan thanks!

_________________
2 Mopars come with Spark plug tubes. One is a world class, racing machine. The other is a 426 CI. boat anchor!

12.70 @ 104.6

Why not connect that wire to a clutch "safety" switch? That way the starter will not engage unless the clutch pedal is depressed. (Safety first)

_________________
Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

Probably for the same reasons I don't want power windows, power seats, door locks, dimmer on the turn signals, fuel injection, traction control and and 100 other things on my car. But your point is well taken. I'll consider it.

_________________
2 Mopars come with Spark plug tubes. One is a world class, racing machine. The other is a 426 CI. boat anchor!

12.70 @ 104.6

I don't remember on earlier cars, but that's the way my 70 manual transmission Barracuda is wired from the factory.

_________________

I have had several vehicles, over the years, with and without a neutral/clutch safety switch. On more than one occasion I have hit the starter with the vehicle in gear, and the engine cranked. Luckily the engine did not start, before I released the starter.

_________________
Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

I had bought my first slantsix car at 1981. It was a 1966 Dart with 170 cu.in. engine and 3 spd manual ”tree on three”. As there was an option to big block 225 I bought one. We did the swap in a car repair garage at the service station in a day they did not had other use for the space.

After few hours the engine was swapped and dressed with the original accessories. It was time for 1st start. I went to the drivers seat, turn the ignition on. Oil pressure light give me information that electricity is on. So I pulled the manual choke on, pushed the throttle few times, pulled the clutch pedal down and turn the key.

It started immediately as the original carburetor was full of gasoline. I had clutch down but it was not adjusted well and I had also the reverse gear on. The car really jumped backwards!

I paid all the glasses of the garage door I broke with my car.

Not a clutch safety switch can help such a fool.

_________________
1966 Dart. 170 cu.in. 200 rwhp. 101.6 MPH @ 1/4 mile.