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Andy Zeiner
 Post subject: Heavy Duty clutch
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2001 9:19 pm 
I need to get a new clutch for my 64 Dart 4speed. What is a good clutch and heavy duty pressure plate? Can a 10" clutch be used and what bolts can I use?

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dschumers
 Post subject: Re: Heavy Duty clutch
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2001 10:50 am 
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: I need to get a new clutch for my 64 Dart
: 4speed. What is a good clutch and heavy duty
: pressure plate? Can a 10" clutch be
: used and what bolts can I use?


My '66 Valiant had a 10" clutch in it when I got it. The guy said it was for a Taxicab application. It bolted right in.


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Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra)
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2001 10:54 am 
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: I need to get a new clutch for my 64 Dart
: 4speed. What is a good clutch and heavy duty
: pressure plate? Can a 10" clutch be
: used and what bolts can I use?


Go for the 10" unit, found in most Vans, Trucks & HD (Taxi) applications. A good "counterman" will pull the listing up. Don't waste money on the 9 1/4 set-up. (if you need a 9 1/4 clutch set cheap, call me)

The trick with selecting the pressure plate is asking how heavy you want the spring pressure, it is a "trade-off" between the pedal pressure and clutch "grip". 1600-1800 psi is kinda light, 2800 and up gets pretty stiff, I'd shoot for the 24-2600 psi range.

Superior Friction (Clutch & Brake) in San Jose can build anything you want.
<A HREF="http://www.superior-friction.com">www.superior-friction.com</A>
(408)436-1101
DD
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Gary
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2001 5:28 pm 
I have a '66 Valiant wagon with a '75 /6 and will be swapping in a '76 A-833 in place of the manual 3 spd. Can I use the '66 3 spd flywheel with a 10" clutch set-up?

Thanks,
Gary
Quote:
:
: Go for the 10" unit, found in most Vans,
: Trucks & HD (Taxi) applications. A good
: "counterman" will pull the listing
: up. Don't waste money on the 9 1/4 set-up.
: (if you need a 9 1/4 clutch set cheap, call
: me)
:
: The trick with selecting the pressure plate is
: asking how heavy you want the spring
: pressure, it is a "trade-off"
: between the pedal pressure and clutch
: "grip". 1600-1800 psi is kinda
: light, 2800 and up gets pretty stiff, I'd
: shoot for the 24-2600 psi range.
:
: Superior Friction (Clutch & Brake) in San
: Jose can build anything you want.
: <A HREF="http://www.superior-friction.com">www.superior-friction.com</A>
: (408)436-1101
: DD



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Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2001 6:49 pm 
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: I have a '66 Valiant wagon with a '75 /6 and
: will be swapping in a '76 A-833 in place of
: the manual 3 spd. Can I use the '66 3 spd
: flywheel with a 10" clutch set-up?


Yes, the 10 inch clutch bolts right on. You should use the special "tall head" clutch cover bolts so the hex points do not rub on the disk edge, the bolt heads are real close to the disk.
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Gary
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 7:05 am 
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: Yes, the 10 inch clutch bolts right on. You
: should use the special "tall head"
: clutch cover bolts so the hex points do not
: rub on the disk edge, the bolt heads are
: real close to the disk.
: DD


Thanks Doc. Where can I get the special "tall head" clutch cover bolts? Mopar? NAPA?

Gary


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Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra)
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 10:41 pm 
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: Thanks Doc. Where can I get the special
: "tall head" clutch cover bolts?
: Mopar? NAPA?


Years ago there were some "reduced head" header bolts which were a close match.

I just grab them off of Trucks / Vans when I see them in the yards.

Truth is that you can get away without them if you use a real thick lock washer and the hex points don't stick into the disk. (position the "flats" towards the disk)
DD
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Drew Belobaba
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:00 pm 
Quote:
: Go for the 10" unit, found in most Vans,
: Trucks & HD (Taxi) applications. A good
: "counterman" will pull the listing
: up. Don't waste money on the 9 1/4 set-up.
: (if you need a 9 1/4 clutch set cheap, call
: me)
:
: The trick with selecting the pressure plate is
: asking how heavy you want the spring
: pressure, it is a "trade-off"
: between the pedal pressure and clutch
: "grip". 1600-1800 psi is kinda
: light, 2800 and up gets pretty stiff, I'd
: shoot for the 24-2600 psi range.
:
: Superior Friction (Clutch & Brake) in San
: Jose can build anything you want.
: <A HREF="http://www.superior-friction.com">www.superior-friction.com</A>
: (408)436-1101
: DD


I was wondering if a bellhousing out of an early eighties dodge truck with an 833 OD will fit in a car application. I have heard that the truck/van bellhousing have more room for the bigger clutch but obviously there is the question of how well it fits and how well parts interchange with car 4spd parts (particularly clutch linkage etc).



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