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 Post subject: Help...Please
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 6:07 am 
does anyone have a ignition circuit diagram that i could use to straighten out our 79 truck. thanks mike

arabmem@hiwaay.net


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 Post subject: Re: Help...Please
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 7:56 am 
Quote:
: does anyone have a ignition circuit diagram
: that i could use to straighten out our 79
: truck. thanks mike


I have a complete Mopar service manual for a 1980 Volare. It may have a similar circuit. Let me know what you need. I would be able to make copies & fax to you the wiring diagram if you think it might help. Let me know..


ktbarnwell1@juno.com


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 9:08 am 
Quote:
: does anyone have a ignition circuit diagram
: that i could use to straighten out our 79
: truck. thanks mike


There are a number of basic electronic ign. circuit diagrams posted in the atricle section of this site, that would be a starting point.
DD


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 Post subject: Re: Help...Please
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 1:42 pm 
Quote:
: I have a complete Mopar service manual for a
: 1980 Volare. It may have a similar circuit.
: Let me know what you need. I would be able
: to make copies & fax to you the wiring
: diagram if you think it might help. Let me
: know..

If you would that would be great fax number is 256 586 6814 The ignition circuit would great or what ever you can send - Thanks Mike


arabmem@hiwaay.net


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 Post subject: Re: Help...Please
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 7:05 pm 
I have the official 1979 Truck service manual around here somewhere. Moved a few month ago and still unpacking. It would be better to have the truck schematic than the car one if you want to work on the ignition switch end of things. Otherwise the underhood parts will have some similarities.

cfield@ll.net


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 Post subject: Re: Help...Please
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 7:07 pm 
Quote:
: If you would that would be great fax number is
: 256 586 6814 The ignition circuit would
: great or what ever you can send - Thanks
: Mike


I will fax some diagrams Friday morning around 4am pacific( when I start work). Hope they help.. Also you might want to check e-bay for a manual.

ktbarnwell1@juno.com


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 Post subject: Re: Help...Please
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 5:37 am 
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: I will fax some diagrams Friday morning around
: 4am pacific( when I start work). Hope they
: help.. Also you might want to check e-bay
: for a manual.

Thanks Kevin. I hope that we will be there when you start work. I am on Central ST.
You might be able to help me a little. The only real problem is that PO ran a jumper wire from the starter relay(hot Lug where the battery cable attatches[sp]) to skinned place on a rather large black wire that is on the alt. with out this 'jumper' there is no fire when the key is on. One guy said it might be the switch. Tried replacing relay no luck. any Ideas - Thanks Mike


arabmem@hiwaay.net


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 Post subject: Re: Wiring Problem Help
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 8:57 am 
Ummm...this sounds like a circuit "by-pass operation" for a blown fuse-able link, locate the fusable link and test it.
Jumping around a fusable link in asking for trouble, can you say wiring "melt-down"?
DD
Quote:
:
: Thanks Kevin. I hope that we will be there when
: you start work. I am on Central ST.
: You might be able to help me a little. The only
: real problem is that PO ran a jumper wire
: from the starter relay(hot Lug where the
: battery cable attatches[sp]) to skinned
: place on a rather large black wire that is
: on the alt. with out this 'jumper' there is
: no fire when the key is on. One guy said it
: might be the switch. Tried replacing relay
: no luck. any Ideas - Thanks Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Wiring Problem Help
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 9:24 am 
Quote:
: Ummm...this sounds like a circuit "by-pass
: operation" for a blown fuse-able link,
: locate the fusable link and test it.
: Jumping around a fusable link in asking for
: trouble, can you say wiring
: "melt-down"?
: DD

Hey Doug, would have any possible location for this fusible link? I looked for wires that might
have melted or made bad connections with no luck. The black wire I described is coming out of the firewall, I believe 2nd or third connection over from passenger side.(As You look at it head on)As I say this is going to the alt. and the jumper is going to the hot lug on the relay. I don't like this mess. Thanks in advance for the help - Mike

arabmem@hiwaay.net


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 Post subject: Re: Wiring Problem Help
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 9:56 am 
Quote:
: Hey Doug, would have any possible location for
: this fusible link? I looked for wires that
: might
: have melted or made bad connections with no
: luck. The black wire I described is coming
: out of the firewall, I believe 2nd or third
: connection over from passenger side.(As You
: look at it head on)As I say this is going to
: the alt. and the jumper is going to the hot
: lug on the relay. I don't like this mess.
: Thanks in advance for the help - Mike


Usually the fuseable link has a rubberized tab on it that says FUSEABLE LINK. It is a pretty thick wire . I don't remember exactly where it is . Somewhere around the starter relay firewall area..


ktbarnwell1@juno.com


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 Post subject: Re: Wiring Problem Help
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 10:54 am 
Quote:
: Usually the fuseable link has a rubberized tab
: on it that says FUSEABLE LINK. It is a
: pretty thick wire . I don't remember exactly
: where it is . Somewhere around the starter
: relay firewall area..

Thanks Kevin.I hope I can find this link. I don't recall seeing it but hten again I was really looking for it. Thanks Mike

arabmem@hiwaay.net


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 Post subject: Re: Wiring Problem Help
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 9:16 pm 
Quote:
: Usually the fuseable link has a rubberized tab
: on it that says FUSEABLE LINK. It is a
: pretty thick wire . I don't remember exactly
: where it is . Somewhere around the starter
: relay firewall area..


The fusable link may have thick INSULATION on it but the wire inside of it is smaller than the wire it protects. This is so the fusable link melts before the rest of the wire harness.
The fusable link insulation is usually hypolon material (don't know if I spelled it right). This material does not melt or start on fire is the idea. Fusable link wire is about 4 gauge sizes smaller than the wire it protects. Example... If you have 12 gauge wire to the alternator then the fusable link in that wire is 16 gauge.


cfield@ll.net


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 Post subject: Re: Wiring Problem Help
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2001 12:49 pm 
Quote:
: The fusable link may have thick INSULATION on
: it but the wire inside of it is smaller than
: the wire it protects. This is so the fusable
: link melts before the rest of the wire
: harness.
: The fusable link insulation is usually hypolon
: material (don't know if I spelled it right).
: This material does not melt or start on fire
: is the idea. Fusable link wire is about 4
: gauge sizes smaller than the wire it
: protects. Example... If you have 12 gauge
: wire to the alternator then the fusable link
: in that wire is 16 gauge.

Thanks I hope to get home today and inspect the wiring.BTW Found a decent PU bed for 50 Bucks.
PS If any one is in the vicinity of North Alabama I know where aDodge prospect -er or -or is. 318 Auto, Pretty good body. about 300 bucks. email me for info - thanks agian mike

arabmem@hiwaay.net


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