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 Post subject: 10" drum replacement
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:36 pm 
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If it turns out I can't get my "new" front 10"x2.5" drums turned I seem to be out of luck finding a new one - everything I've seen so far is 11".

Is it pretty common to punch out the hub/lugs (assuming you're able without causing a disaster) and put rear drums on the front?

(I'm assuming I can get along without fins, given that the old 9" ones had none, and I don't foresee any Hipo - at least not in this lifetime.)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:46 pm 
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Rear drums aren't as wide as front drums.

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Rear drums aren't as wide as front drums.
Then I must have got lucky and got hold of unusually narrow front brakes. They're 2.5" and RockAuto lists 10"x2.5" rear drums.

At least it appears that way. These shoes are 2.5" wide, so would seem to fit with 2.5" drums, right?.

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napa online has those front 10" drums, i was going to get one.
also checkers online has those too, they quoted $66.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:15 am 
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napa online has those front 10" drums, i was going to get one.
also checkers online has those too, they quoted $66.
I guess I need to learn your search system. I can't find them in either of those places.

Altho Checkers actually sent me to PartsAmerica - same place Advance sends me. Is there some other Checkers?

When I put "Checkers Auto Parts" into Google I got a note from eBay assuring me I could buy a "Checkers Auto Parts" at eBay :!: :lol:

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hey ross

been following your latest post and noticed that your inability to use any search engine is driving you crazy and getting you into stupid fights with people. Perhaps you should get a search tutor that will help you out in order to understand A) what's a finder B) what you want to find C) how to narrow down results to your specific needs D) how to read the results you get. IE I've searched for all the parts you har a headache findindg and I got them all in diffrent places.... that means that A) you're lazy or B) you don't know the ABC1 about searching something on the internet. I'll assume B) as the correct answer... why don't you create one post asking for help about how to use the search engines and I'm sure people will be happy to help you out there... instead of posting hundreds of messages complainting about how difficult is to search something and how "bad intentionated" Dan is about this... I really think you could use more help and less hassle don't you?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:18 pm 
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been following your latest post and noticed that your inability to use any search engine is driving you crazy and getting you into stupid fights with people.
Is that what's happening? I don't know how to use any search engine? You seem to have some sense, so I'll answer you straight. If it's a fight, it's not me fighting. I'm merely answering you. How you take it is up to you. :)

Tell me I'm wrong when I say the slantsix.org search engine phrase feature doesn't work. Show me and a bunch of other people how to make it find phrases. That is, several words together treated as one word. It's a very common feature on the best search engines - not necessarily the majority of them. :arrow:

Outside slantsix.org? I've used computers for near on 30 years and search engines for a lot of that time and know that using search engines is more intuition, experience and memory in a given field than the machanics of the search engine. Not only is almost every search engine slightly different, but the owners philosophy on how it should work is anybody's guess. And that's the most significant factor of all. (Now I'm writing the tutorial.) That's a simple fact, not hundreds of complaints. :)

Did YOU find a 10" front drum listed for a 1972 Dodge Challenger? I very, very seriously doubt it, and I'll tell you why. I've been looking for a 10" front drum for a '72 Challenger. The first thing you usually come to is the year, then the make then the model, then the part. NONE of those parts places list such a thing under that system with that setup. :)

The intuition and experience arrived when I stumbled across something indicating the '72 never had such a drum, but the '70 did. Now I find 10" front drums all over the place - NONE of them listed for 1972 Challenger info I was given on a piece of paper. The moral? You have to know a lot to find out a lot. The problem is that every time you change subjects you have to start all over again in the "know a lot" department.

That, too, is a simple fact. People who grew up eating parts numbers for breakfast have a huge advantage over someone who didn't. Having accumulated a pile of parts books over years of time doesn't hurt either. :)
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instead of posting hundreds of messages complainting about how difficult is to search something
What did they put in your coffee this morning? :lol:
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and how "bad intentionated" Dan is about this... :o
I didn't realize how badly Dan needed you to come to his rescue. :!:

Dan would appear to be a damn genius with a photographic memory, and, as such, shows no patience at all with people who are not like that. His often sneering attitude and put-down posts would seem to me to diminish, not increase, the value of his considerable contribution. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:57 pm 
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Dan shows no patience at all with people who are not like that.
If you'll look back through my posts (oops, which I guess you can't do because for some strange reason the search function doesn't work for you), you'll see that is not at all the case. I devote a great deal of time and energy to helping those who are working their way along the learning curve.

I show no patience for the likes of you, Ross, because you deliberately offload your problems on others, i.e., you're lazy. With just a tiny little bit of extra effort, you could get most of your questions answered almost instantly, all by yourself. Instead, you deliberately post byzantine, rambling questions. You deliberately turn simple questions into interminable novellas full of trivial irrelevancies designed to show off how clever you think you are. When pointed in the specific direction of the search that'll turn up the info you seek, you whine that it's too much trouble. When you're told the parameters of a brake system, you argue from a position of complete ignorance. That kind of behaviour, Ross, is what I show no patience for. Not because you didn't grow up eating part numbers for breakfast, and not because you know less than I do about any particular topic, but because you're an obnoxiously lazy dilettante. You make my life less pleasant, so I return the favour. That's all.
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sneering attitude and put-down posts
Which, if this board's search function didn't have such a nasty vendetta against you, you'd quickly come to see are directed almost exclusively at those who behave badly—such as yourself.

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Is that what's happening? I don't know how to use any search engine? You seem to have some sense, so I'll answer you straight.
me likes straight answers.
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If it's a fight, it's not me fighting. I'm merely answering you. How you take it is up to you. :)
OK for the heads up.
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Tell me I'm wrong when I say the slantsix.org search engine phrase feature doesn't work. Show me and a bunch of other people how to make it find phrases. That is, several words together treated as one word. It's a very common feature on the best search engines - not necessarily the majority of them. :arrow:
telling you you're wrong seems to wake up all the things you have underlying wich happens to be the same that you pester about when dan does his share... so I'll just say that you don't seem to get along with search engines and their quarks. I've been using commputers for more or less that same amount of time (the only difference being that I'm about 25-30 years younger than you) so it's more like a natural languaje for me... and I do get along with search engines inside and outside /6.org Sometimes I've been in a lazy mood and I've straight posted "I tried to use the search engine but I'm lazy so here it goes" and folks have "forgiven" my "lack of good behaviour" and have answered me. Not good thing to overdo on this... noone likes to feel like a condom.
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Outside slantsix.org? I've used computers for near on 30 years and search engines for a lot of that time and know that using search engines is more intuition, experience and memory in a given field than the machanics of the search engine. Not only is almost every search engine slightly different, but the owners philosophy on how it should work is anybody's guess. And that's the most significant factor of all. (Now I'm writing the tutorial.) That's a simple fact, not hundreds of complaints. :)
when you type out loud that way isn't a whine. Sometimes your complaints have sounded like whining a lot (again, not a fight, just trying to get around the issues here so you may be able to enjoy your stay here and other people would enjoy you hanging around too)
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Did YOU find a 10" front drum listed for a 1972 Dodge Challenger? I very, very seriously doubt it, and I'll tell you why. I've been looking for a 10" front drum for a '72 Challenger. The first thing you usually come to is the year, then the make then the model, then the part. NONE of those parts places list such a thing under that system with that setup. :)
I have found the most strange parts that I needed for my car down here in argentina looking for and searching for them online, in the most off-reason places in the world. But then again, Me pointing at you having some issues with search engines, wouldn't have to be read as me saying "you stupid old man get away from the computers or cordless phones". :lol: Is just my mere idea about what's happening here, what's causing you headaches inside and outside /6.org
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The intuition and experience arrived when I stumbled across something indicating the '72 never had such a drum, but the '70 did. Now I find 10" front drums all over the place - NONE of them listed for 1972 Challenger info I was given on a piece of paper. The moral? You have to know a lot to find out a lot. The problem is that every time you change subjects you have to start all over again in the "know a lot" department.
Yeah, that's when one tends to get stumped or lazy... or if you capitalize the experience, you'll end up as a find-parts-extraordinaire.
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That, too, is a simple fact. People who grew up eating parts numbers for breakfast have a huge advantage over someone who didn't. Having accumulated a pile of parts books over years of time doesn't hurt either. :)
don't believe that's about eating parts numbers... see, I believe in loving the car/artiffact/ect that you're trying to bring back to top shape. If you love it, you'll bust your ass to get it fixed and in top shape.
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What did they put in your coffee this morning? :lol:
that would have been my tea, don't drink coffee anymore since my stomack cancer surgery. God I mis my cofee!
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I didn't realize how badly Dan needed you to come to his rescue. :!:
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Dan's a pain in the ass sometimes, but you gotta give the guy's a chrysler corp expert and to top that, he knows the stuff from even a wider timeline period than you might think off. I've fought with dan, we have chatted, and he's not a bad guy. He's impulsive, I'll give you that, but he ain't a mean mistreater fellow. Everyone here have his quarks. :roll: and one has to try to work around them
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Dan would appear to be a damn genius with a photographic memory, and, as such, shows no patience at all with people who are not like that. His often sneering attitude and put-down posts would seem to me to diminish, not increase, the value of his considerable contribution. :shock:
A) if he's a genius, what do you care about? you should learn to use that dan's feature in your benefit instead of turning the whole dan against you...
B) he has no patience? mmm... he may snap a lot at people who try his nerve, but he's not unpatient per se.
C) while I agree (and have discussed it with him) that his "snapping" doesn't go well for a guy who weems so bright, this kinda phrases like the line you wrote on the holley webber carb, something like "xxx gets mad when you try to cross information from outside...." (don't recall the whole line but shure you'll get it) is calling for troubles. Or not?

And to close this, I don't see why everything here has to be about dan. You keep getting into cutting contests with him. You ain't like him? don't pay attention to his posts! that's how I deal with people I don't care for.

Well, in the spirit of keeping the board good and clean, I hope that you too realize that I'm not trying to start a pissing contest here. :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:34 pm 
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Which, if this board's search function didn't have such a nasty vendetta
Just so you know . . . most search engines do not yet have vendetta capabilities. :idea:

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napa online has those front 10" drums, i was going to get one.
also checkers online has those too, they quoted $66.
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I guess I need to learn your search system. I can't find them in either of those places.
Some apparently chose to read that as a sneer. It was not. It was a serious statement. Maybe I did learn your search system when I found the drums listed under a different year than I was told to look under. But believe me I had no thought of taking your post as anything but helpful. I reported my lack of results just in case you wanted to comment further.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:33 pm 
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This thread has turned into something other then a search for brake drums. Gentlemen, please, this wineing and complaining, does absolutley no good. If you have a problem with someones post, just ignore it. This thread is now locked, it has gone too far off topic.

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