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 Post subject: Graphite manifold gasket
PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:03 pm 
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I'm having a bear of a time trying to get my manifolds to seal (I think I've got a slight bit of warpage on the exhaust), and remember someone mentioning a "super gasket" of sorts a while back. Also, I remember the gasket I'm thinking of being reusable. Is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0067541223 it?

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Yep, that's the gasket to get. No, as with all other gaskets for this application, you cannot use them more than once.

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I like the clifford gaskets - I'm not sure what material it is. One solid piece, both faces are a charcoal like black and the center is white. The black face has a waxy feeling to it. I was able to remove the intake manifold/header at least twice without ruining the gasket and successfully reused it. It stayed on the head, and the manifolds/headers came off clean.

I believe the Cox Brothers make a gasket in similar material. I've only used this gasket with headers, not sure if expierience would be the same with stock exhaust.


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I bought two of those gaskets a while back from the same seller. They are very impressive looking and considerably thicker than any I have seen from the auto parts store. I have yet to put one on the vehicle, but I think you will be very pleased with that product.

As for the trouble with the seal, did you ever get the intake and exhaust manifold surfave machined flat?

Brian

IP.S. know the auction says they have re-used the gasket, but I am with Dan I don't believe these are the type of gasket that should be re-used.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:08 am 
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No, haven't gotten them resurfaced yet; the local machine shop has a hella long wait time to get any work done so I'd be w/o a vehicle for quite a while. I have a spare exhaust manifold at my uncle's shop that I need to go pick up and see if it's any flatter.

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I like the clifford gaskets
The problem with the Clifford gaskets...

...is Clifford. :roll: :shock:

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No, haven't gotten them resurfaced yet; the local machine shop has a hella long wait time to get any work done so I'd be w/o a vehicle for quite a while. I have a spare exhaust manifold at my uncle's shop that I need to go pick up and see if it's any flatter.
With the right machine, the resurface job take about 15 minutes.
I spend more time cleaning the grit out of the manifold after it's been surfaced.
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Just get the cox brothers gaskets - Probably same quality as what you have seen in that auction and better quality than clifford's.

Cox brothers Fabrication
1467 Weldon Avenue
Columbus Ohio 43224
614.268.9920

Just Smear grease or vaseloine all over the gasket flat surface before you put them on.

You might need to trim off a bit (of the gasket) near the thermostat and near the Bottom of # 1 and #6 Exhaust ports to clear the casting excesses on the head.


They will come right off and they ca be reused as long as they are not burned out By an excessivley warped header or manifold.

I would also do what doc says and true up your manifold.

You can do it yourself with a belt sander and a straightedge.




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...I would also do what doc says and true up your manifold.
You can do it yourself with a belt sander and a straightedge.
Greg
A Peterson model 50 "open face" grinder is my tool of choice for this job. Call around for shops near you who have one.
A large belt sander will also do the job.
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Cox Bros gasket . Pulled the intake for three different reasons same gasket. Of course when the intake comes off the headers come off. Listen to experance and track tested products. This is good stuff for the Slant and you wont be sorry. Thanks Ron Parker :D









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You might try a good independent muffler shop. I have seen a couple of them use the kind of grinder needed on manifolds and headers. I doubt a chain store would have one.


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I had my head on the port side smoothed when it was rebuilt. My intake was NOS. Used headers.

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Don't just check flatness for "warpage", also check your spare exhaust manifold to see if the spacing between mounting holes has not shifted. I sandblasted, painted, and then payed to have a salvaged manifold resurfaced. Boy, was I irritated when it would not fit onto the studs. As it turned out, the engine that the manifold came from was missing the rear stud (broken off in head), so the rearmost exhaust runner had "warped" forward about half a hole diameter. :evil:

Dry fit everything first,
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