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 Post subject: Lightest factory SL6 car
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:39 am 
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I having searching for this info but can't seem to find it. What I am looking for is the lightest car that came from the factory with a SL6. I think it was the Dodge colt but I don't really know. The car will get COMPLETELY gutted, I would like to get in the 1500lbs range ready to race

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:11 am 
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The Colt was made by Mitsubishi, with an engine around 1.5L.
I think the lightests factory-slanted cars would be early Valiants or Lancers, with shipping weights around 2600 lbs. Getting either down to 1500 lbs would take some serious surgery.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:29 am 
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Oh, and don't forget the added weight of roll cages, fire extinguishers, harnesses, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:34 pm 
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I took a quick look through "The Plymouth & Desoto Story" (Don Butler).

The 62 V-100 2 Door Sedan weighed in at #2480

By 1966 the same sedan weighed around #2800

1968 Valiants - #2660

1970 Duster /6 - #2790

1974 Scamp - #3010

1976 Volare Coupe - #3285 (in V-8 trim)

For reference: 71 Sport Fury Brougham Wagon, seats 8, 440 V-8: #4325

The Feather Duster option was rumored to take about 200 lbs off the shipping weight of a standard Duster, but I'd sure hate to see one of these (somewhat rare optioned Dusters) cut up to make a drag car.

-Mac


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:58 pm 
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Remember.... anything goes in SL6 racing, you can run any car as long as it is powered by a Slant.
Many racers are using the later Mitusishi cars and slamming a SL6 engine into them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:28 pm 
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Car Model: 1964 Plymouth Valiant V200 Sedan
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Many racers are using the later Mitusishi cars and slamming a SL6 engine into them.
On another tack, I know where there's a Sunbeam Alpine (Rapier-style) sitting in a barn ... :evil:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:04 pm 
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Oh, and don't forget the added weight of roll cages, fire extinguishers, harnesses, etc.
This will be a "street car" so I will only be doing a roll bar.


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 Post subject: Lot out there...
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:07 pm 
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The Feather Duster option was rumored to take about 200 lbs off the shipping weight of a standard Duster, but I'd sure hate to see one of these (somewhat rare optioned Dusters) cut up to make a drag car.
Lot of these were fed a V-8 on the cheap...sadly that gives back the 200lb advantage, and the 76 duster is already about 250 lbs heavier than the 1970-1972 Duster, so no real advantage there...

My 1967 Valiant 4 door Signet, with a full load of gas and a 240 lb driver weighs in about 3000 lbs....

-D.Idiot


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:12 pm 
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My 65 Valiant with 300lbs of me and the new bride and a full tank 3015lbs.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:18 am 
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I would like to advoid cars that might be considered rare or collectors cars since I will be chopping the heck out of it. I might just use a 240sx shell or some other car simlilar.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:48 am 
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MANY people are throwing away 60-66 Valiants and Darts these days, even nice ones. I would not hesitate to look for one of these that has a ratty interior but decent body and get to choppin'. If you want to go really cheap, get a 4dr.

I have probably seen 10-20 in the last year that I would make a racecar out of and they probably got scrapped or are sitting in someone's yard.

Best way is to look in AZ, CA, OR, WA, TX - on the internet and post on this site. Rust free, but not worth restoring due to the oddball nature of these cars.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:38 am 
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You are going to be hard pressed to get anything into the 1500# range. 2500# is doable with an early A though. :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:32 am 
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I would like to advoid cars that might be considered rare or collectors cars since I will be chopping the heck out of it. I might just use a 240sx shell or some other car simlilar.
One thing to consider is that several (most/all?) of the bigger Mopar shows require the car to be "Mopar Bodied" to enter the race class. Tom and Leighton Drake have run into this problem with their Simca.

If you're just looking to build a cool, light race car for local bracket racing it is no big deal. If you are planning on entering a certain class to run at Mopar shows, then you may want to be more careful in the chassis you choose.

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 Post subject: Re: Lot out there...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:07 am 
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The Feather Duster option was rumored to take about 200 lbs off the shipping weight of a standard Duster, but I'd sure hate to see one of these (somewhat rare optioned Dusters) cut up to make a drag car.
Lot of these were fed a V-8 on the cheap...sadly that gives back the 200lb advantage, and the 76 duster is already about 250 lbs heavier than the 1970-1972 Duster, so no real advantage there...


-D.Idiot
I saw a chart on Moparts that has engine weights,and it states that the slant six and 273-340 V8's weigh the same, is this true? If so, wouldnt you actually drop weight by going with a 340 w/ aluminum intake,aluminum heads,headers.....etc...??? :?:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:14 am 
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It's my understanding that the small block weighs about 50# more than a cast iron 225. I don't remember where I got the information but I believe it was Allpar.

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