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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:33 am 
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So what are you doing about the prop valve with the rear disks? I would think that now you could turn up the rear line pressure to get better performance out of them.

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weight of 7 1/4 axle w/ 10" drums removed from car 160 lbs
weight of similarly equipped 8.8 w/discs 185 lbs

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I will just hook it up like it was stock. The car stopped very well before with just stock 75 Dart 4 door valving.

My rear brake lines are hosed from the master to the axle...so it all will get done anyway.

I still need some 3" U bolts and spring plates.

I still need to look at the drive shaft.

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I will just hook it up like it was stock. The car stopped very well before with just stock 75 Dart 4 door valving.

My rear brake lines are hosed from the master to the axle...so it all will get done anyway.

I still need some 3" U bolts and spring plates.

I still need to look at the drive shaft.
I got a very nice set of 3" U-bolts and spring plates from Dr. Diff. He is a member on Moparts, and I think he is in California.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:54 am 
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Sandy, the explorer rear tubes are actually 3 1/4". Stock explorer u-bolts work well. The 7 1/4" shock plates can be made to fit with elongation of the holes. Can't really see it in the pic. of my 8.8, but they are 7 1/4 shock plates.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h194/ ... G_0122.jpg

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Thats good to know Frank. Too bad they cut the ubolts when I got the axle. I have the Explorer plates but the shock mounts are way off...even though Explorer and A body use the same shock.

I can get cheap u bolts sets at the machine shop.

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...even though Explorer and A body use the same shock.
:shock: Do tell! I'll have to check that out. I wonder if there's a Bilstein that will fit...

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Axle centre to u joint Yoke centre is the same (at first look) on the 7 1/4 and 8.8.....meaning I can continue to use the same stock rusty Volare wagon driveshaft I hate...

I wanted a stock aluminum Aerostar Van driveshaft to work.

It also means you can replace a stock Valiant axle with an 8.8 and use the stock driveshaft. (at first look....)

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I got a very nice set of 3" U-bolts and spring plates from Dr. Diff. He is a member on Moparts, and I think he is in California.
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I measured about 1" difference between the center of the axle and the center of the yoke(between the 7 1/4 and 8.8 )

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Well this week I got the 3rd set of wrong ubolts. Disappointing......Im tempted to make the last 3 1/2"set they sent me work anyway.....

I did take the time to order up all the little bits I need .....should be in in about a week. brake hoses, ujoints , pads....

Unfortunately I get about 4 hours off a week right now....so little progress would be made anyway.

I want my car back. ~sniff~

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stole 3 hours ......modified the ubolts to fit ,,,,,,,mounted up everything .....I have a roller for the first time in a while. Tire clearances are perfect......found a driveshaft in the slant pile that is exactly 1"shorter than my hated Volare wagon shaft.......

Brakes are next.....

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stole 3 hours .....
Sometimes, you just gotta do, what you gotta do 8)

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Sandy, this looks like it is going to be a real nice setup. I have yet to find a new rear and may very well go this route. I have been looking for an 8.25 or a 7.25 Ranger rear. I've not had much time for the search lately, but this with discs looks better. I was looking for a 3.21 ratio and thinking 3.55 as the max, but our Dart is pretty much a fun car now and so the buildup criteria is a bit looser. I could live with 3.73 gears.

Any thoughts about what year explorer 8.8 to look for? My wheel clearance is rather close now, do you have a total width dimension?


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