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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:39 pm 
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from what i've noticed reading through some topics how come everyone seems to hate clifford perfromance just curious?
i was pretty happy with the headers/4bbl intake i got from them?
and i've seen some builds on the internet with some mighty nice timeslips with clifford parts. Just wondering i'm new to the forum so i could be in the dark if i think clifford is good or something.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:49 pm 
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Everyone that dislikes Clifford does so because they aren't considerate about; shipping in a timely manner or customer service. If you lived within driving distance, I reckon they would be fine. They've also made some poor reproductions of the Hyper-Pak, and that got under some peoples skin. I don't think their cams are up to par either, unless they've changed profiles in the past 2 months.
Other than that, They have good stuff! I would love to have a set of their headers.
I hope I have made an unbiased explanation as to why they catch all the flak.
Mopar to ya!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:00 pm 
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why thank you sir. as soon as i posted this i remebered that i heard they had terrible customer service so maybe that is why they get the cold shoulder. ya i did have a long wait on my parts to be shipped but hey it doesn't bother me some good things take time to come i suppose.
Thanks for the opinion i appreciate it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:30 am 
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I am one of the many quiet clifford parts happy folks :) I ordered my pieces through a local autoparts store and didn't have to long a wait(2wks). Didn't have to pay up front(although I did),parts came as promised and fit like they should. I've called clifford acouple times for tuning Q an A and they have been friendly and helpful. My opinion from my experiance :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:58 am 
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Ya i felt the same way my headers and intake fit right on, but they did take awhile to be shipped but i was still happy. The only thing i have noticed that clifford may be lacking on is the camshafts i've been trying to compare them to comp cams and erson cams.
Thanks for the input man

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:07 am 
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Hey DKev,
Erson is by far the best deal $ wise...and a great cam too.
Check out these guys: http://www.schneiderracing.com They have some hot grinds that may be what your looking for.
I had my stocker reground with them, and I'm more than happy with it.
Customer service is top-notch, and parts are genuine quality.
Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:14 am 
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Thanks Banjo i'll check some things out and i think i've been swayed to get an erson cam after looking around last night and comparing to clifford cams thanks everyone.

Oh another question i stumbled upon a clifford blueprinted performance head whats the word on those is 1000 bucks worth putting out or can you machine a better head for less money at a local machine shop?

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Oh another question i stumbled upon a clifford blueprinted performance head whats the word on those is 1000 bucks worth putting out or can you machine a better head for less money at a local machine shop?
its way too pricey. Mine out flows it by a mile and I had a local shop do it for $800 with all new parts, milled, 3 angle valve job, etc.


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Oh another question i stumbled upon a clifford blueprinted performance head whats the word on those is 1000 bucks worth putting out or can you machine a better head for less money at a local machine shop?
its way too pricey. Mine out flows it by a mile and I had a local shop do it for $800 with all new parts, milled, 3 angle valve job, etc.
So what does the Clifford head flow?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:59 pm 
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sorry, I had the numbers from a buddy of mine years ago but I lost it. I remember being disapointed at its numbers for the money involved, and how I paid $200 less and got much more (and still felt like I got ripped off actually). All I have are my numbers. I think Lou (dart270) probably has the best flowing head on the site if I remember right......I could be wrong.

if nothing else, you can get it done cheaper from a local. if you browse through older posts of custom headwork you can find what people have done for cheaper money.


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