hello sages- this ones probably for sl6dan or the di- i had a 77aspen wagon sl6 with a 4spd od . the factory floorshifter in this one and my current 76 sl6 feather duster appear to be hurst produced mechanisms. i had a 73 valiant 318 with a 3spd factory floorshifter which looks like the same mechanism in my current 80 volare sl6 with a 3 spd floorshift. who made the factory floorshifter for these 3speed (A230) transmissions? uncle moe told me it was a company called inland. never heard of them. if correct was inland a part of the hurst company? both shifters seem well built heavy duty units. is either company still in business? the only other 3spd floorshift in chrysler i recall was the 60-61 valiant, but ithink that was a chrysler unit, not hurst. that was a strange transmission, it slanted with the engine. most rare was the factory 4speed trans and floorshift in the 64 chrysler newport. think it was a german or french 4speed, but dont know who made the floorshift mechanism. let me know if you know. regards bob fisher

I have two A-230 three speeds (one 1973 unit and one 1974 unit)...one is destined for the 1967 Valiant...both have a very nicely designed short shift floor shifter (the throw in the shift handle is much quicker and less 'lengthly' than the hurst units) that uses the same boot as the A-833 floor shift units in the A-body. Inland made these nice units, which is odd since the Inland 4 speed shifter in the 60's was...well...less than desired due to functionality problems (missed shift gate problems when drag racing, the reverse lock collar sometimes wouldn't work correctly), the A-833 units found later in the sixties and all the way up to the last A-833OD in the 1987 pickup trucks are hurst units....

Inland was a separate company from Hurst (and has been around long enough to make .30 M1/M1A1/M2 Carbines for WW2 among other things...).


-D.Idiot

The French, Peugot if I'm not mistaken, transmission had an internal shift mechanism that was integral with the transmission. Ma Mopar used shifters made by Hurst and Inland over the years as well has some homegrown stuff. Inland came later and was a definite step down to save money.

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hello di and dakight- you bad boys are up to speed on your floorshifter knowledge. thanks for the guidance. i understand the hurst companyis gone but parts for their shifters can still be hadfrom mr. gasket and super high priced vendors(whose names will be withheld to protect the guilty) . is inland still in business and parts for their shifters still available? di- my A230 in the 80 volare is a side cover and has the backup light switch in the cover. it looks like a very strong heavy duty trans. what has been your experience with it? to increase mpg was thinking of replacing the 3.2 gear set in the 8.25 rear with a more common 2.76 set. uncle moe says thats dumb- too much work b/c non dropout rears are hell on the rocks to take apart and it wont yield that much better mileage besides making the wagon sluggish as hell. moe said it would be better to throw in an extra 4spd od trans which i have.that way would have a final drive of 2.45 in od with the 3.2. figure that would require a different bell because the input bearing nose cover is a different size between the od and the 230. interested in your input. regards bob fisher

Not sure, the shifters I have are in really good shape, so I haven't had to worry about that yet...
Never had a problem with mine daily driving it, I've heard they were used behind some warmed up V-8's, so all in all as 3 speeds go they are the best choice (especially since they have a synchro 1st gear...so you can downshift into 1st on those nasty hills...)

You won't see much of a mileage change going from a set of 3.23 to 2.76's (maybe 1 mpg), you will find the 2.76 will require more clutch burning to get the car to roll (did this with my '74 duster that had the A-230, went from 3.21 8.25 rear to a 2.94 gearing and a 2.76 gearing).
In 1975 the A-230 got a bigger retainer like the A-833OD so the factory could stop making/installing two separate bellhousings (3spd only vs. 4spd dual pattern housings)...In fact this is a 'cheat' for some guys who need to put a larger bearing retainer on their A-833 supposedly (never done it myself), you can use the A-230 1975+ bearing retainer and replace the smaller one on the old A-833 (standard box) and get it to fit into the A-833OD bellhousing... If your A-230 is an oddball for the year, or is an older unit (pre-75) then you'll either be tracking down the late retainer or swapping to the early bellhousing...


I only consider the 3spd swap as an improvement over the A-904 since the A-230 has a 3.09-ish 1st gear (good for getting off the line in traffic), but allows better control and shifting than the automatic...other than that the A-230 is like the A-833OD, just no OD gear...



good luck,

-D.Idiot

Hurst is still in business. They are marketing the pistol grip again. They will refurbish your shifter too!

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