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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:35 am 
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I would like to improve the handling of my 63 Valiant when it is time to replace the tires. Currently it has the 13 inch rims with radial tires.

What is the best rim size/tire size for this model? Also, are larger 14 and 15 inch rims readily available? do all mopar 14's and 15's fit this car?

My biggest issue with handling is, despite replacing all front end bushings, etc., the ride seems harsh. Is that just the way they were? I am inflating 13 inch tires to 32 pounds. Too hard?

Thanks
Tom

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:55 am 
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Location: Lubbock, Texas
Car Model: 1964 Plymouth Valiant V200 Sedan
I like 205-60R15's with 15"X7" rims (+12mm offseet) on my '64 Valiant. I think the wheelwells are similar to the '63 models.

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If your '63 hasn't been modified, it has the 5 on 4" bolt pattern rims, which limits your wheel choices. Stock 13' and 14" wheels are skinny to medium widths. Custom rims are available.

The 4.5" bolt pattern has a much larger selection of wheels. My car has that bolt pattern and front disk brakes from a '74 Duster.

32 PSI is within the normal range of street tires, and shouldn't cause excessive harshness.

What torsion bars, rear leaf springs, and shocks do you have?

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BBD, CAI, HEI, LBP, AC, AM/FM/USB, EIEIO


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:28 am 
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AS far as I know, the torsion bars, shocks and rear springs are all stock. Shocks look like they were new in the past year. (I have had the car for six months) the tie rod ends, bushings, idler arm, etc. were all replaced by me (with rubber) recently.
Thanks for your advice on wheel sizes
Tom

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:52 am 
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Location: So California
Car Model: 64 Plymouth Valiant
A 15x7 would be nice, but is expensive in the SBP wheel.

So either get a 14 x 5.5 stock steelie or rally wheel (either 5.5 or 6")

Use a 195/70 14 or 205/40 14 tire.


I use 32psi with my 195/70 14s and 32 is good for the 13"


Also F/R antiroll bars with the stock springs/torsion bars improves the handling immensely. When your shocks wear out get at least KYBs as replacements

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 Post subject: Wheel source
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:46 pm 
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Thanks for the advice. Any tips on a good source for stock fourteen inch wheels?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:18 pm 
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Location: Burlington / West Seattle
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Try these:

http://www.classicchambered.com/classic/wheels.html

http://www.wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_ ... index.html

(And of course the local swap-meets, car shows, etc. in addition to E-Bay and CraigsList)


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 Post subject: valiant wheels
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:12 pm 
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Location: Boulder City Nevada
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I got some 14x7 chrome wheels in the small bolt pattern made by american racing through discount tire stores. I never found a listing on line but they got them for me by just asking. I think they were around 50-55 bucks each.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:28 pm 
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Turbo EFI
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Location: Lubbock, Texas
Car Model: 1964 Plymouth Valiant V200 Sedan
Good point. Discount Tire doesn't list everything on their website. My wheels took a little digging by the one real car-guy at the counter to find. Offset was the issue - They had -6mm in stock. +12mm was about right, and took a day or two to get.

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 Post subject: discount tire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:44 am 
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we the closest store to me is in-- Wichita Falls Texas about 5 hours one way. were these rims newly produced or some older wheels that had not been sold . thanks Lawrence


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:52 am 
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Can't say for sure,but the boxes looked new enough.


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 Post subject: Re: discount tire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:59 am 
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Turbo EFI
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Location: Lubbock, Texas
Car Model: 1964 Plymouth Valiant V200 Sedan
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we the closest store to me is in-- Wichita Falls Texas
Hey! Wichita Falls is my home town! Don't see it mentioned online very often. I think "64 Convert" lives there.

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1964 Valiant V200, 225/Pushbutton 904
BBD, CAI, HEI, LBP, AC, AM/FM/USB, EIEIO


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:43 pm 
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I have 14x7 Slot mags on my Dart. 235 60 R14 tires on the rear, but next time I get tires, I will get 225 60 R14.

On the front, I will be putting 14x7 slot mags, and 195 60 R14 tires.


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