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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:04 pm 
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Yup...because removing a functional catalytic converter is a Federal crime with very big penalties.

Yeah, I had mentioned something about THE MAN getting pissed off about things like that, and for good reason; but my buddy, being the "IT'LL BE FASTER! I JUST KNOW IT!" type of guy, asked for the converter-ectamey anyway...

To his defence though, the gentleman running the shop was rather offensive about it.

Whatever - they will both live on, with another bullsh**ter story to tell!


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I know that all state laws differ but what about the ones that now exempt cars beyond a certain year from testing and/or inspection? Ok there to yank the cat(s) off? back when I was going to the local community college, I had a 76 Charger SE (Dodge's Cordoba) that my dad had put a "test tube" in back when they could still be had, and I took my car to school to use it as that day's guinea pig on the ignition scope/exhaust analyzer, and found that my car would pass the test for a then-brand new car (this would have been about 1987-88) NO converter, EGR blocked off, miles of vacuum line in the trash, and carb/timing set correctly.


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I know that all state laws differ but what about the ones that now exempt cars beyond a certain year from testing and/or inspection?
If they don't test or inspect, they won't have occasion to notice the converter's absent, but removing it remains a Federal offence. That does not necessarily mean it should stay on or it should come off.
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I had a 76 Charger SE and found that my car would pass the test for a then-brand new car (this would have been about 1987-88 )
See this post for an explanation of what you found.

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I usually end up getting mandrel-bend pipe sections and weld them together........

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I was watching that show "How its made", they were bending brass tubing for some musical instrument, to prevent it from kinking they filled it with water and froze it, then bent it.

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I was watching that show "How its made", they were bending brass tubing for some musical instrument, to prevent it from kinking they filled it with water and froze it, then bent it.
that's for showing, what we really do when we wanna reproduce a crook or something very difficult to bend is filling it with lead. You melt lead pigs, fill the section of tubing you want to bend, then bend it. Then you just heat it up and volià you're done.

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A pipebender does just that, it forces a "shoe" into the pipe against an unmoving "shoe". A tubing bender has a moving "shoe" that follows the tube making the bend. Been too many years since I was bending pipe or tubing to explain it, it's almost a "got to show you" thing. As far as filling it with sand, might work, you would have to cap both ends of your "tubing" so the sand wouldn't just go path of least resistance.

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If you could get the HF bender to bend and not crush the pipe, it still will not work. You will not be able to make the bends close enough together. You say your pipe has 7 bends in it. Your pipe is about 4 feet long, that is almost 2 bends per foot. There is no way that HF bender will do that. I have one, I know. Your only hope using an HF bender is to make bends, and then cut and weld everything together.

There is a reason you do not see HF pipe benders in exhaust shops!

You will spend more to make the pipe then you will to have the pipe made. Having the pipe made will result in a much nicer piece then cobbling crushed pipes together

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