Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:58 pm

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Super Six linkage
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:59 am 
Offline
3 Deuce Weber
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:05 pm
Posts: 94
Location: Moreno Valley,CA
Car Model:
Hi i've owned Mopars for quite some time but this is my first S6,its a 73 Duster. This is going to be my daily driver and I'm already enjoying it. I just picked up a super six set up (intake,carb,kickdown link and air cleaner). The guy I bought it from says it's off a 77 volare. What I need to know is how the linkage is hooked up. if someone has a pic or knows where I can get a diagram that would be great this way I won't have to buy a book on volares. thanks,Richard

_________________
my first 6 1973 Plymouth DusterImage


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:24 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:29 pm
Posts: 963
Location: Eustis, FL
Car Model: '68 V100, '68 V200, '79 Aspen, '84 D100
Here's a BBD on a '63 Valiant. Looks like he has an unsilenced air cleaner using a chrome 273-4 top and a 273-2 base.

Image

_________________
Slant Cecil


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24446
Location: North America
Car Model:
Cecil, where'd this pic come from? I agree it's a 273-4 air cleaner lid (same lid as the 11" diameter slant-6 1bbl '61-'69 air cleaner), but I've never seen a 2bbl base plate for this style of air cleaner, that I can remember (which is a damnuisance, because I need one)...I always imagined it should exist, but I've never seen one in real life or in the parts books; the 2bbl V8s got larger/flatter snorkel-style air cleaners with the base + sidewalls as one piece and the lid as a top plate only, as it seems. Have you seen such a base? Or is this one in the photo a custom-mod job?

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:05 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:29 pm
Posts: 963
Location: Eustis, FL
Car Model: '68 V100, '68 V200, '79 Aspen, '84 D100
Dan, the pic of the '63 Valiant convertible is by the owner. He is from Tallahassee and I have seen the car recently at the Melbourne FL Mopar show/swap in Janurary.

The 273-2 air cleaner you are refering to is a silenced AC. This unsilenced AC base in the pic is from a mid '60s 273-2. At least I THINK that's the base he is using as I have 3 of them and mine appear the same. I am using a 273-2 base on my '68 V100 and '68 Signet with the original 1bbl unsilenced top. My '84 D100 has the same base along with a 1bbl top off a junker I had.

I had previously posted about this base for someone that wanted to use correct looking AC for a BBD on a pre-'70 car. You replied that it would not clear a '60-'66 A body hood and that the 273-2 was a silenced AC.

The top of AC top is 5.2" above the valve cover with this base. I thought I was going to have to make a custom base using a 2 bbl center in a 1bbl bottom to get enough drop, but I found this base at a swap meet for $5 and tried it. Clears my '68 A bodies, and IF it is the same base on the '63 in the pic, looks to clear a '63-'66 also.

I used to think that if it had a snorkel, it was a silenced AC, but there are some unsilenced ACs with snorkels. Unsilenced is when the AC is open 360* at the bottom reguardless of snorkels.

_________________
Slant Cecil


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:25 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24446
Location: North America
Car Model:
Quote:
The 273-2 air cleaner you are refering to is a silenced AC. This unsilenced AC base in the pic is from a mid '60s 273-2. At least I THINK that's the base he is using as I have 3 of them
Cool! I will have to renew my search for such a base plate...and I just found it in (and only in) the '65 FPC, where it is listed as "Unsilenced, w/2 barrel carburetor, w/273 cu. in. eng., Barracuda". Options are with or without fitting for crankcase ventilation. This air cleaner is not listed in '64 or '66 or any other year; looks as if all other pre-1970 273-318 2bbl engines in passenger cars got the large/flat type with the round snorkel. I haven't checked truck/van FPCs.

Interestingly enough, there's no listing in the '65 FPC for 273-4bbl air cleaners...and mine's the final-edition March '66 printing...nor in the '66 FPC, either! :shock:
Quote:
the original 1bbl unsilenced top
.

Actually, the 1bbl air cleaner with this lid is silenced by means of the controlled gap between the lid's dropped sidewalls and the turned-up rim on the baseplate. I think the unsilenced 4bbl baseplate had no such rim. The only unsilenced factory 1bbl air cleaner I'm aware of is the one used on 1962 170 engines, which has a lid without sidewalls, and a baseplate with a sort of partial inverted-cone deflector but mostly just open sides, see
Quote:
The top of AC top is 5.2" above the valve cover with this base. I thought I was going to have to make a custom base using a 2 bbl center in a 1bbl bottom to get enough drop, but I found this base at a swap meet for $5 and tried it. Clears my '68 A bodies, and IF it is the same base on the '63 in the pic, looks to clear a '63-'66 also.
Can you please snap me a quick pic of one of these baseplates so I can see what kind of drop it has to it?
Quote:
I used to think that if it had a snorkel, it was a silenced AC, but there are some unsilenced ACs with snorkels
Yep — they don't have the baffle behind the snorkel.
Quote:
Unsilenced is when the AC is open 360* at the bottom reguardless of snorkels.
Not so; both the small/tall and large/flat slant-6 1bbl air cleaners had a 360° air inlet around the bottom, but they were silenced by the controlled gap between the sidewall of the lid and the turned-up rim of the baseplate. For proof of concept, try using the small/tall base with the large/flat lid. The gap gets much larger, and the intake gets much louder. That's how I got my first-ever traffic ticket as a teenager, was with exactly that base/lid combo on my '65. I was so absorbed in the intake roar that I failed to notice the speed enforcement. I don't think I was too far over the limit, if at all, but the cops heard my intake roar from the bottom of the curving hill and pulled me over. Gave me a seatbelt ticket instead of a more costly 'cause they didn't see a shoulder harness through the windshield of my '65 :shock:

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Last edited by SlantSixDan on Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:35 am 
Offline
3 Deuce Weber
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:05 pm
Posts: 94
Location: Moreno Valley,CA
Car Model:
Thanks for the pic looks like I,m missing the part that holds the throttle cable and kickdown :x

_________________
my first 6 1973 Plymouth DusterImage


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:04 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:29 pm
Posts: 963
Location: Eustis, FL
Car Model: '68 V100, '68 V200, '79 Aspen, '84 D100
Quote:
Quote:
The top of AC top is 5.2" above the valve cover with this base. I thought I was going to have to make a custom base using a 2 bbl center in a 1bbl bottom to get enough drop, but I found this base at a swap meet for $5 and tried it. Clears my '68 A bodies, and IF it is the same base on the '63 in the pic, looks to clear a '63-'66 also.
Can you please snap me a quick pic of one of these baseplates so I can see what kind of drop it has to it?
I bought the first base to use on my '84 D100. I knew it would clear the hood. Once I got the BBD on my '68 Signet, I tried it and was supprised it cleared, so I found another base.
Please don't give me any grief about the Wally World yard stick! :oops: The drop measures almost 1 1/16".

Image
Image

_________________
Slant Cecil


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:24 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24446
Location: North America
Car Model:
Jeeze, this looks like _exactly_ the baseplate I need! Can ya find me one?

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:28 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:29 pm
Posts: 963
Location: Eustis, FL
Car Model: '68 V100, '68 V200, '79 Aspen, '84 D100
Quote:
Jeeze, this looks like _exactly_ the baseplate I need! Can ya find me one?

I'll be on the lookout. Image

_________________
Slant Cecil


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], Bing [Bot] and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited