Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:56 pm

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:04 pm 
Offline
4 BBL ''Hyper-Pak''
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:57 pm
Posts: 40
Location: Wimberley, Texas
Car Model:
Hi all, local mechanic (30+ yrs. exp., very good) rebuilt his first Mopar tranny (mine), a 998, it's back in the car and it'll "drive & shift" on the lift but on the ground it'll only do reverse; no forward.

Here's what I know - tranny was pulled because converter (lockup converted to non-lockup status) disintegrated. Dissassembled, all parts checked & cleaned, replaced clutches & bands; previously modified but unknown kit/procedure; he installed a trans-go kit, everything checks out like the diagrams. A reconditioned lockup converter was installed. Lines cleaned, cooler cleaned.

This guy can rebuild 700R4s in his sleep... this should've been easy. He did mention there's "some vacuum thing with a spring in here that's the goofiest thing I've ever seen, but it went back in like it came out." :shock:

That's everything I know. Any ideas? Heck, any 998s? :(

Thanks in advance,
Scott in TX

_________________
62 Plymouth Valiant "Alvin" 170
74 Dodge D100 "Joe" soon to be 225
74 Roadrunner "Sarge" 360


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:21 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24446
Location: North America
Car Model:
There's nothing vacuum-operated in a 998...:shock:

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:35 pm 
Offline
4 BBL ''Hyper-Pak''
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:57 pm
Posts: 40
Location: Wimberley, Texas
Car Model:
Well that's not very encouraging now, is it? I wonder what he meant by that... he was stammering at that point, so it could've been "diaphragm" or "big plume" or "see you in June"... I may have misheard.
:oops:


But something about a spring mechanism.


BTW Isn't the lockup vacuum controlled?

Thanks! ~Scott in TX

_________________
62 Plymouth Valiant "Alvin" 170
74 Dodge D100 "Joe" soon to be 225
74 Roadrunner "Sarge" 360


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:18 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24446
Location: North America
Car Model:
Lockup's hydromechanical or electric, depending on production year and application. Never vacuum.

There are many spring mechanisms in the valve body...

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:25 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:04 pm
Posts: 7416
Location: Oregon
Car Model: 2023 Eichman Digger?
Front Solenoid.
Do the Air checks in the FSM.

CJ

_________________
Part of Tyrde-Browne Racing


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:38 pm 
Offline
4 BBL ''Hyper-Pak''
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:57 pm
Posts: 40
Location: Wimberley, Texas
Car Model:
Application currently is a 78 Magnum, 318. Actual year of tranny unknown. Nothing electrical in there, though, from what I was told.

Thanks,
Scott

_________________
62 Plymouth Valiant "Alvin" 170
74 Dodge D100 "Joe" soon to be 225
74 Roadrunner "Sarge" 360


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:22 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:29 pm
Posts: 963
Location: Eustis, FL
Car Model: '68 V100, '68 V200, '79 Aspen, '84 D100
Sounds like the direct (rear) clutch isn't working or maybe has too much clutch pack clearance. The direct clutch is needed on all 3 forward gears but not for reverse.

Could be a valve body problem, direct clutch piston failure, bad/broken sealing rings, low fluid and/or hyd pressure, overrunning (sprag) not holding, and a few other things.

The 'hyd thing with a spring' sounds like the accumulator spring and piston. Leave it in.

The FSM is your freind, the ATSG 727/904 book is your second best pal.

_________________
Slant Cecil


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:55 pm 
Offline
4 BBL ''Hyper-Pak''
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:57 pm
Posts: 40
Location: Wimberley, Texas
Car Model:
Nine hundred and ninety eight thank yous, that's definitely a start. My guess is it's something simple that wouldn't necessarily grab his "Cheveyes"...

Scott

_________________
62 Plymouth Valiant "Alvin" 170
74 Dodge D100 "Joe" soon to be 225
74 Roadrunner "Sarge" 360


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:53 am 
Offline
4 BBL ''Hyper-Pak''
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:57 pm
Posts: 40
Location: Wimberley, Texas
Car Model:
He pulled it again, checked & doublechecked, all appears ok, all tests perfect when air tested. He thinks it's a valve body issue...

the tranny had been gone into and modified previously, unknown hands, unknown kit if there was one... when my mechanic put in the shift kit, he said it looked like half of what they said to do had been done, so he did the rest except for one ball that said something about manual control, continued on pg. 8. Well there was no page 8. So that stayed in.

We have the FSM for the car. Very good & helpful, but "mah car's still broke." :shock:

His next step: pull the valve body and trace the fluid path, maybe a tiny piece of my converter got lodged in there. QUESTION: will a valve body from a 904 bolt into a 998? If he needs a stock valve body to start over with I have an old 904.

Thanks again for the help!
~Scott

_________________
62 Plymouth Valiant "Alvin" 170
74 Dodge D100 "Joe" soon to be 225
74 Roadrunner "Sarge" 360


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited